Player Features and Ideas Discussion

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@ OP. I'm surprised you aren't asking for that refund for your T2 cargo rigs while you are at it.

The hulk is perfect where it is; the ore hold only fits one cycle because you're supposed to be dumping that ore to a hauler toon, aka another FLEET member. However the hulk is the only one of the three types that is so clearly defined in it's role.

I do believe the other barges/exhumers need a little tweaking. Mackinaw tanks seem a hair high. Skiffs can also hold multiple cycles of ore.

If the ships are supposed to fill a role, put them in that role; if they are supposed to have significant overlap, all three should overlap in some ways.

Actually having a 70 mil SP indy alt, Its not because we want my ore my ore. It's because when we join a player corp griefers join the corp just so they can gank without concord interfering. So we stay in NPC corps, where our ships are reletively safe and we can mine in peace.

And the orca has around 225,000 total M3 of space when fully upgraded for cargo. Although Honestly I wuld like to see it given more space for "ore".

Many people use the large cargo bay as a mini cheap freighter so it needs to remain on the orca,however the Ore hold does indeeed need to be made larger.

In fleets of more then 5 - 10 hulks I have to run to the station to empty the orca every 5-15 minuets, even fully upgraded. And it takes about 3 minuets to warp to the station and 3 minuets to warp back, sometimes 5-6 minuets there and 5-6 back depending on the system. So it is a constant scoop Dock empty, Run back Scoop Dock empty. Because it does not have enough space in the ore hold to support even 1 squad of hulks, let a lone larger fleets.

To be honest they should just make the Rorq Available for Use in highsec, I mean its an Industrial ship.... What is the purpose of restricting it to 0.0 and lowsec where it is rarely if ever used? I've played eve for 10 years and been all over 0.0, and I think I've seen maybe 5 in 10 years actually being used. CVA uses one so does -7-, Pandemic used one, and I've seen razors. But each of these allaince only ever have 1 Rorq it seems, and I have only ever seen 1 in lowsec. Parked at a POS.

This ship is great and it needs to see more use allow for it to be used in Highsec so it can get the love it deserves.

u can still fleet and work together in NPC corps, just make a common chat channel and rename it 'not so corp chat'



an orca can warp over 450au in three minutes. systems are rarely over 100. so that was grossly exaggerated, like a lot of ur other posts. if space is an issue u can always use more than one Orca or a freighter itself since they are supposed to be able to scoop now.



although its a ridiculously powerful mining support vessel, it is just a mining support vessel. so i wouldn't mind them in hi-sec. if they could be restricted so they could only be in war-deccable corps, even better!

to the OP,

hulk is fine as it is. if u cant drop a can every two minutes, ur either terrible and should use a mack to compensate for ur poor abilities, or; u have more hulks than u can handle, ur still terrible and should use a mack to compensate for ur poor abilities.

u dnt have to make them all macks. just making one a mack and letting it go would probably help u loads.

You forget not all systems have stations sometimes you have to go through multiple systems in order to get to a station. In addition a cargo orca align time is slower then a Charon freighter. depending on which direction your facing it may take you 2 minuets to simply allign.

FYI also station less systems are the best mining systems as most don't mine them out because it is "inconvienient".

I will admit, 2 minutes boosted is not much time at all if you look away. Room for a 2nd cycle would be nice.

That being said, its not game breaking either, and other than being inconvenient at times, its not enough to make me stop using my Hulk.

~Z

I have suggested a dedicated ORE hauler with a generous ore hold in one of the threads on my signature.
A regular racial Indy hauler just won't hack that level of volume. You would need more like 3, maybe 4 of piloted by noobs.
The alternative is to stick a freighter in the belt for pickup duty. As CCP has now allowed them to pickup from jetcans, this is a valid option. Given the sheer volume, you could probably stay in belt until the belt is empty and dock up when the fleet moves on to the next field. One noob in a rookie ship with a web will get that freighter to warp in seconds rather than what feels like hours.

Also, back to numbers, not including mining drones, the absolute maximum with implants and max skills is a tiny bit over 5km3/cycle from a hulk. Even with 10 hulls, you still have at least 4 cycles which is a minimum of 8 minutes.

Confirming you appear to have no idea what you are talking about.

Hulk is fine with it's ~8k, just empty into your orca each cycle + stagger your strips



When you jump through a gate you are always aligned, you only need to accelerate up to 3/4 speed.
The animation of your ship turning isn't true.

Unless you allow your ship to decloak before selecting where to warp to. Then you have to both align and accelerate.