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[-WHG-] Public Announcement

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Wei Soikutsu
Doomheim
#61 - 2013-01-15 16:45:24 UTC
Dex Nederland wrote:
If you wish to put me on public trial for standing up for Heiian as I see it, say so now.

Given that your previous, highly charged statements can only be interpreted as putting the Honor Guard on public trial for its interpretation, it would only be fitting. However, I fear that you already have done this yourself. Your own words thus far are more damning an accusation than any prosecutor's.

Whether your dislike of the Executor and the Providence Directorate's method is justified or whether it is not, clearly it is clouding your judgment. It grieves me beyond words to see the founder of the Heiian Society attempt to wrestle dedicated and patriotic fighters down into the muck, in public, with a weak appeal to corporate sovereignity as the only justification.
Hamish Grayson
#62 - 2013-01-15 19:56:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Hamish Grayson
There are many ways to serve the will of the Chief Executive Panel. Some serve by obeying their orders, some serve by disobeying their orders. At the level of the Caspuleer, Heiian is far more complicated than at the level of a simple dock worker.
Desiderya
Blue Canary
Watch This
#63 - 2013-01-15 21:22:24 UTC
You are seriously claiming that disobeying direct orders is serving? I do not think that it is up to the individual to interpret the intention of orders, especially not ones that were coming straight from the top.
There is also an extremely wide gap between acting in the spirit of said orders and going directly against them.

Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise.

Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#64 - 2013-01-15 21:53:22 UTC
Hamish Grayson wrote:
There are many ways to serve the will of the Chief Executive Panel. Some serve by obeying their orders, some serve by disobeying their orders. At the level of the Caspuleer, Heiian is far more complicated than at the level of a simple dock worker.


My, what prescience you must have to know the will of the Chief Executive Panel while not having attained the accomplishments or having the requisite talent, ability and personal merit to serve on its board.

Service to the State demands disobeying direct orders and commands from lawful authorities to you? Down that path lies only the shame of failure and disgrace, for as I once said, Duty is a burden and not a choice unless one decides to abandon it.

Hiding behind the skirts of SCC and CONCORD regulations in order to excuse that duty at least is not an issue for the staff and employees of the Wiyrkomi Honor Guard for its tenets are not complicated - they are as simple as life itself for a true citizen of the Caldari State.

Kurilaivonen|Concern

Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#65 - 2013-01-15 22:05:26 UTC
Dex Nederland wrote:


If you wish to put me on public trial for standing up for Heiian as I see it, say so now.


Why should I feel the need?

If you do not feel the shame of your own words or that you have lost face in expressing them in public, then who am I to say that you should fall on your own sword or drink the tea Lai Dai prepares for you in order to save yourself from disgrace?

Kurilaivonen|Concern

Hamish Grayson
#66 - 2013-01-15 23:05:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Hamish Grayson
Desiderya wrote:
You are seriously claiming that disobeying direct orders is serving? I do not think that it is up to the individual to interpret the intention of orders, especially not ones that were coming straight from the top.
There is also an extremely wide gap between acting in the spirit of said orders and going directly against them.


CEO-ship suits you suuolo.

Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:


My, what prescience you must have to know the will of the Chief Executive Panel while not having attained the accomplishments or having the requisite talent, ability and personal merit to serve on its board.




Major Gasakaarin, You may address me as either Strike Commander Grayson, Distinguished Blade Grayson, or preferably leave it up to your commanding officer to do the speaking.
Desiderya
Blue Canary
Watch This
#67 - 2013-01-15 23:33:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Desiderya
I do think that Gesakaarin-haani was not speaking as Eskeitan but as Commissar, and as such it is beyond my powers to forbid her the right to speak, especially in an enviroment that concerns the audit she currently is supervising.

Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise.

Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#68 - 2013-01-15 23:35:41 UTC
Hamish Grayson wrote:
Major Gasakaarin, You may address me as either Strike Commander Grayson, Distinguished Blade Grayson, or preferably leave it up to your commanding officer to do the speaking.


As the appointed Internal Auditor and Commissar for Wiyrkomi Honor Guard at this point in time, it is in fact I who may decide as to when its Chief Executive Officer may speak.

Consider your request politely declined, Grayson-haan.

Kurilaivonen|Concern

Hamish Grayson
#69 - 2013-01-15 23:49:38 UTC
I like you.
Sar'tek
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#70 - 2013-01-16 01:37:29 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
I would like to state for the record that I willingly submitted to the inquest of my own free will and that at no time were my rights as a Citizen of the State infringed.

It is a privilige to aid the CPD in their duties.



Sigh... a bit too eager to jump on the band wagon aren't we??? If you are competent enough to be accepted and serving in the WHG, I should certainly hope you're loyalty extends to complying with a simply security audit.

Honestly, why for the love of all the ISK in Jita do these pups feel the need to advertise that they are doing their job, as expected???
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#71 - 2013-01-16 05:22:58 UTC
Sar'tek wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
I would like to state for the record that I willingly submitted to the inquest of my own free will and that at no time were my rights as a Citizen of the State infringed.

It is a privilige to aid the CPD in their duties.



Sigh... a bit too eager to jump on the band wagon aren't we??? If you are competent enough to be accepted and serving in the WHG, I should certainly hope you're loyalty extends to complying with a simply security audit.

Honestly, why for the love of all the ISK in Jita do these pups feel the need to advertise that they are doing their job, as expected???


Because there was some speculation as to whether I was willingly complying with the investigation or whether they had slipped a black bag on my head and stuffed me in the back of the Party Van.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Solarienne
Hrimdraugar
#72 - 2013-01-16 08:49:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Solarienne
Sar'tek wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
I would like to state for the record that I willingly submitted to the inquest of my own free will and that at no time were my rights as a Citizen of the State infringed.

It is a privilige to aid the CPD in their duties.



Sigh... a bit too eager to jump on the band wagon aren't we??? If you are competent enough to be accepted and serving in the WHG, I should certainly hope you're loyalty extends to complying with a simply security audit.

Honestly, why for the love of all the ISK in Jita do these pups feel the need to advertise that they are doing their job, as expected???


And who the hell are you?

Tuulinen does his part, cleared up some ambiguity as to whether he was doing his duty (something that was being questioned in the public domain) and you decide to drop a steamer in here to get your kicks?

No rep, no militia badge, no service.

Also, triple question marks? Seriously?

PY-RE Combat Pilot

Wei Soikutsu
Doomheim
#73 - 2013-01-16 08:55:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Wei Soikutsu
Solarienne wrote:

No rep, no militia badge, no service.

Worst of all, no point.
Sar'tek
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#74 - 2013-01-16 15:22:35 UTC
Solarienne wrote:

Tuulinen does his part, cleared up some ambiguity as to whether he was doing his duty (something that was being questioned in the public domain) and you decide to drop a steamer in here to get your kicks?

The fact that you (collectively) are uncomfortable enough to take anything broadcast in public domain seriously as being legitimate questions of what should be an internal WHG matter indicates that there is nervousness about the process and that the public perception is more important to you than the actual audit process and its findings.

Solarienne wrote:

No rep, no militia badge, no service.

No, I turned in my pretty badges and flags when I began actually working for a living, not sauntering around congratulating myself for being me. I have done my time with the militia, though I don't need to justify myself to you, and have since moved on to other endeavours.

Solarienne wrote:

Also, triple question marks? Seriously?

Ah, that explains it then. You are the grammar police, congratulations on your inevitable promotion and rise to stardom as traffic control officer for Caldari Prime.
Scherezad
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#75 - 2013-01-16 15:55:56 UTC
Sar'tek wrote:
The fact that you (collectively) are uncomfortable enough to take anything broadcast in public domain seriously as being legitimate questions of what should be an internal WHG matter indicates that there is nervousness about the process and that the public perception is more important to you than the actual audit process and its findings.


Sir,

The purpose for making public announcement of corporate activities is to hold ones' self (and ones' corporation) publicly accountable. WHG has always prided itself on its accountability.They have not bragged about their audit, they have merely stated the facts therein.

Please consider re-enlisting, even if only part time. Your State needs you.
Solarienne
Hrimdraugar
#76 - 2013-01-16 16:27:18 UTC
Sar'tek wrote:

Ah, that explains it then. You are the grammar police, congratulations on your inevitable promotion and rise to stardom as traffic control officer for Caldari Prime.


Glad you appreciate it, though I doubt the good people staffing the star gates and docking ports of Caldari Prime would appreciate your evaluation of their skills being on par with a bored, admittedly poor public speaker putting down a 3rd rate troll. Please have more respect for your hard working traffic officials, it can be quite a demanding job I hear.

PY-RE Combat Pilot

Sar'tek
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#77 - 2013-01-16 16:31:32 UTC
Scherezad wrote:
The purpose for making public announcement of corporate activities is to hold ones' self (and ones' corporation) publicly accountable. WHG has always prided itself on its accountability.They have not bragged about their audit, they have merely stated the facts therein.


There is publically and then there is the dog and pony show this has evolved into. I am certain that the Gallente, Amarr and Minmatar military personnel reading these messages are having a good laugh at the States expense.
Wei Soikutsu
Doomheim
#78 - 2013-01-16 16:52:04 UTC
And your blatant, baseless provocation was supposed to remedy this situation.. how?
Sar'tek
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#79 - 2013-01-16 16:56:31 UTC
Wei Soikutsu wrote:
And your blatant, baseless provocation was supposed to remedy this situation.. how?


My dear, it is always more fun to toss a little bit of fuel on the fire. No matter who much you are enjoying to watch the fire burn.
Desiderya
Blue Canary
Watch This
#80 - 2013-01-16 19:03:41 UTC
I would politely request that everyone would treat the matter at hand with the respect it deserves. My patience is running thin when the fate of hundreds of employees is deemed a matter of entertainment. Whatever the investigation reveals, they are stil under my protection. So be careful when fanning the flames. More than one thoughtless child has ended up burnt.

Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise.