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Introducing the New Order
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Simon Louvaki
Khaldari InnoTektoniks and Analytical Solutions
#121 - 2013-01-15 18:41:38 UTC
Your telling people to pay a fee and follow the YOUR rules for mining in high sec under pain of being ganked or bumped. Yeah, 'you like being dicks' is pretty much it.

-- "The weak of mind are quick to judge with slightest tempt; Thus fools go forth to spread false word." - The Scriptures, Book of Trials 2:13 - 2:21

--"At the narrow passage, there is no brother and no friend." - Hyasyoda Proverb
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#122 - 2013-01-15 19:02:29 UTC
You people need to understand power.

The New Order has found a way to gain power over others. You now decry them.

You are doing this the wrong way. The proper way to do this is not to come onto these forums and say that you are being oppressed, it is to exercise your power over the ganker, and the bumper.

If you say "I shouldn't have to exercise power over the ganker and the bumper" then you have already lost.
Simon Louvaki
Khaldari InnoTektoniks and Analytical Solutions
#123 - 2013-01-15 19:15:32 UTC
Power? I don't think I would go so far as calling what their doing as power. Their way of doing it is brilliant though, I'll give them that, cowardly but brilliant.

-- "The weak of mind are quick to judge with slightest tempt; Thus fools go forth to spread false word." - The Scriptures, Book of Trials 2:13 - 2:21

--"At the narrow passage, there is no brother and no friend." - Hyasyoda Proverb
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#124 - 2013-01-15 19:22:25 UTC
It's power. They are exercising their ability to control the way miners do things, and the miners are either complying, or getting blown up.

You can talk all you like about the morality of it, whether they should or should not act in the ways they are, but in the end the only thing that matters is what has ever mattered, and that is sheer, naked ability to make someone do what you want them to do, or to prevent them from stopping you from doing what you want to do.

Miners, by and large, do not understand this. I do not like to speculate on reasons.

Stop disparaging your enemies, stop calling them names as if calling them cowards will lead to them stopping their activities (it won't, as their activities are achieving their goals) and instead work on finding a way to prevent them from stopping you from doing yours.
Simon Louvaki
Khaldari InnoTektoniks and Analytical Solutions
#125 - 2013-01-15 19:49:43 UTC
I've yet to see hide nor hair of these chaps other than their bellowing across the summit and other forms. I don't pilot anything worth blowing up during my mining operations that I can't replace, so let em blow it up if they ever come around. I'll be happy to return the favor. As for them being cowards, its is what is, and like I said its a brilliant plan but it doesn't change the fact their hiding behind multiple corporations that prevents any effective retalitaion.

and as for it being power? hardly. A few ruffled feathers isn't power, not in any real mesurable sense at least. I know none of their victims, never heard anything about them in any of the local or corp chats and never would have had I not came here. New Eden is far too vast for them to hold any real power over the region as a whole and it's people will only put up with it as long as its not being too much an annoyance.

-- "The weak of mind are quick to judge with slightest tempt; Thus fools go forth to spread false word." - The Scriptures, Book of Trials 2:13 - 2:21

--"At the narrow passage, there is no brother and no friend." - Hyasyoda Proverb
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#126 - 2013-01-15 20:01:47 UTC
We'll see how that goes.
Arve Vesren
Doomheim
#127 - 2013-01-15 22:21:49 UTC

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