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Quick wormhole PI question.
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Zyx Shewma
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-01-15 13:43:16 UTC
Does the quality of planet (PI potential) increase depending on class of wormhole?

It always seemed to me to be kinda random.
Bloemkoolsaus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-01-15 14:27:49 UTC
No. Quality of the planets is based on security rating. All wormhole systems are -0,99
Matt Ellis
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-01-15 15:28:30 UTC
Bloemkoolsaus wrote:
No. Quality of the planets is based on security rating. All wormhole systems are -0,99


Correct. But i thought Wormholes were -1.0? or is it just rounding it up?

On another note, WH PI is probably the most lucrative. Bear in mind if you wanna set up an operation, you will need to have it defended, and you will want your own Customs Offices. Funny story, some fool came into our wormhole once, and started doing PI with our 100% tax on non corp members. Nice little earner!
Bloemkoolsaus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-01-15 15:45:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Bloemkoolsaus
I think it's rounding. I checked the static datadump to make sure i wasn't gonna say something stupid :P
Qvar Dar'Zanar
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2013-01-15 23:06:07 UTC
Now that you bring up the topic, how do you set it up? When I lived in hi-sec I had all my planets doing factory P2... Now it seems extremely low yield to have to extract my own products.
SaccharIS
Dammalin Industries Incorporated
#6 - 2013-01-16 08:30:21 UTC
While I'm shure that there are better ways depending on your PI skills, personal or corp needs and time, for me it works well with my PI skills at lvl 4 at the most to produce Consumer Electronics, Mechanic Parts and Coolant on one Planet each and bringing the first two to a fourth planet where I make Robotics out of them while producing Oxygen along the way. Gives nice ISK with very little effort. As to setting up the Planets I found this video to be very helpful. I do PI only in the WH atm, I've never tried it in highsec though as I was never sitting around one place for long enough so I can't really compare this to highsec PI. Nullsec was pretty much the same though.
Terrenor
The Silver Flame
#7 - 2013-01-16 09:31:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Terrenor
It depends on your corp / alliance and the system you're in.

Upsides of PI in a WH:
-Can set up your own POCO (0% tax)
-Planets are rich with resources

Downsides:
-Only one system to work with
-Can be hard to haul out
-If a lot of people are doing the same PI, resources can get depleted

One thing you also have to consider is, how often will you be hauling the goo out (if you're not making POS fuel and hauling ice products into the WH). The more you refine your product, the less you need to haul (I'd consider it better even if I got a little less money, if I have to haul once per month instead of once per week for example).

My current setup on 5 planets:
1&2 - 2x P2 factory, materials extracted on the same planet
3&4 - 4x P1 factory, different materials to fuel planet 5
5 - 4x P2 factory to refine mats from planets 3 and 4, 1x P2 factory that's fueled by extraction on the same planet

I use 3 day 2h cycles, most often I will stop and restart in the last hours of a cycle. It's not much, but it's a decent passive income for the amount of work that has to be done.


edit: In highsec, extracting is not worth it and refining can be profitable, but the prices fluctuate too much to make any long term production plans.
Baron Birco
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2013-01-17 12:59:34 UTC
I too have a PI question I cant seem to get an answer to.

Is the abundance of resources on a planet impacted by the number of players extracting that particular resource on the same planet?

For example: two temperate planets of the exact same resources. Planet A has five players all PIing for water. Planet B has zero players PIing for water. When I scan both planets, would B reflect more water than A?

If I had to to guess, the number of players has no impact on resource abundance on planets. Only a player's PI skills will show more or less resources.