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Zol Interbottom
Blimp Requisition Services
#21 - 2013-01-15 11:25:44 UTC
Brooks Puuntai wrote:
Also remember that Microsoft should have already or will soon drop support for XP. So as others have stated you might as well just get Win7 or just develop a love/hate relationship with Win8 like everyone else.


> windows 8
> love

to say one thing, pick one and only one

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Kno Smo
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2013-01-15 11:25:46 UTC
You guys know, that XP will not be aupported anymore? It will not get any security updates at all?

It's funny, when ppl complain about a simple change in the UI (the start screen works like the start button in Win7 but has more features)... but to go back to that old stupid system instead of Windows 7... seems to be a grandpa who can't adapt to anything new, lol :D

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Hrothgar Nilsson
#23 - 2013-01-15 11:25:58 UTC
Hans Hoff wrote:
So that people who like to GUESS solutions from their previous experiences on earlier operating systems I will provide further information.
When pressing F8 the boot the system only allows entrance into some options. What it does not appear to do is give a boot option from CD ROM.
As people familiar with formatting and installing windows would know. this is axiomatic..

What's the model/make of your motherboard?
Liner Xiandra
Sparks Inc
#24 - 2013-01-15 11:27:06 UTC
Hans Hoff wrote:
So that people who like to GUESS solutions from their previous experiences on earlier operating systems I will provide further information.
When pressing F8 the boot the system only allows entrance into some options. What it does not appear to do is give a boot option from CD ROM.
As people familiar with formatting and installing windows would know. this is axiomatic..


Noone told you to hit F8.

Because F8 is your startup options for Windows, not your PC's BIOS where you can set device boot order.
That's either [del] or [f11] or [f12], depending on your vendor/motherboard manufacturer.
Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#25 - 2013-01-15 11:33:56 UTC
Hrothgar Nilsson wrote:
Asuka Solo wrote:
1) Remove your HD if you only have 1 of them (otherwise, set your OS disc to slave and the other disc to master in your boot options), stick it into a friends PC as a slave and boot it up.
2) OS not found, please install drama
3) Install XP via advanced menus, select your windows 8 drive.. format and replace
4) Install Eve
5) Run Eve
6) Right click on Asuka Solo and donate all your current isk for Eve saving advise.
7) Profit!

Um, are you actually advising he take his HDD out and perform the Windows installation on another computer before removing it and plugging it back into his machine?

Unless they have an identical motherboard, this will NOT work.


He merely has to format his drive to get rid of the windows 8 he can't uninstall using his friends pc.. he can then rebuild it into his PC and start over.

But if his friend does have the same MOBO... Good for them.

I'm just of the mind that everybody is leet like me and builds a few identical computers for Eve multiboxing purposes.... Hence why I couldn't be asked to care about difference in hardware configs when I pull stunts like that.

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Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
#26 - 2013-01-15 11:37:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarvos Telesto
Kno Smo wrote:
You guys know, that XP will not be aupported anymore? It will not get any security updates at all?

It's funny, when ppl complain about a simple change in the UI (the start screen works like the start button in Win7 but has more features)... but to go back to that old stupid system instead of Windows 7... seems to be a grandpa who can't adapt to anything new, lol :D


This "stupid" old system is most succesful stable and best microsoft os system in thier entire history, i know people need adapt to new things, but come on XP was awesome and meny players still use it, exept new generation whith focusend on consumption and people who spent a lot money every month to get new brand cell phone with new icon on better lcd scren, or just to get 2fps more.

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Hrothgar Nilsson
#27 - 2013-01-15 11:38:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Hrothgar Nilsson
Sounds a bit overly complicated.

If he goes into his BIOS and configures his CD/DVD-ROM as the first boot device, and saves+exits the BIOS (a 15 second process), the option to format the drive will be available after booting from the XP disc.

BTW, duder trying to get your computer to boot from the XP disc... like the other guy said, it's F11, F12, or Delete most of the time, and the option to configure your boot device order should look like this or this.
Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#28 - 2013-01-15 11:38:56 UTC
Hans Hoff wrote:
Juan Andalusian wrote:
Hans Hoff wrote:
Andski wrote:
try a 3 year old OS like windows 7 rather than an 11 year old dinosaur

I own a copy of windows XP and after windows 8 I will be F****ked if I give Bill Gates one more cent.
I checked out the net for alternative os BUT MOST SEEM TO BE STILL IN THE DEVELOPMENT STAGE..
Until about an hour ago I was running 4 accounts on an old comp using XP. It has got a loose connection somewhere and I have left it running since early December.. The power cut about an hour ago has made me decide to drag this comp out of its box and fire it up. I would appreciate information how to uninstall windows 8 a replace it with XP.
Although opinions are interesting they are not really helpful.



Jesus.

1) Format the drive.
2) Insert XP DVD into DVD Drive.
3) Set Boot Device.
4) Do what the PC asks you.

I sincerely hope you fail and that someone close to you more computer savvy forces windows 7 on you.


FAIL. Can I get an answer from someone who knows what he's talking about?
Briefly, IT DON'T HAPPEN. Or I wouldn't have posted on here.
Check the other post, Someone is quitting. Go ask for his stuffs.


But... he was actually right... :/ That's how You do it since Windows 95...

Stupidity should be a bannable offense.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#29 - 2013-01-15 11:39:50 UTC
Kno Smo wrote:
You guys know, that XP will not be aupported anymore? It will not get any security updates at all?

It's funny, when ppl complain about a simple change in the UI (the start screen works like the start button in Win7 but has more features)... but to go back to that old stupid system instead of Windows 7... seems to be a grandpa who can't adapt to anything new, lol :D

You should have to adapt to UI decay — there is absolutely no reason for backwards motion in that area. While a bit extreme, his response is the appropriate one for getting a manufacturer to remedy that kind of brainfart.
Zol Interbottom
Blimp Requisition Services
#30 - 2013-01-15 11:42:49 UTC
Kno Smo wrote:
You guys know, that XP will not be aupported anymore? It will not get any security updates at all?

It's funny, when ppl complain about a simple change in the UI (the start screen works like the start button in Win7 but has more features)... but to go back to that old stupid system instead of Windows 7... seems to be a grandpa who can't adapt to anything new, lol :D


probably the same people who hacked their XP to sort of support direct X 10

Metro is just ******* ugly

"If you're quitting for the 3rd time you clearly ain't quitting" - Chribba

K1netic
Doomheim
#31 - 2013-01-15 11:43:45 UTC  |  Edited by: K1netic
Sarmatiko wrote:
Hans Hoff wrote:

FAIL. Can I get an answer from someone who knows what he's talking about?
Briefly, IT DON'T HAPPEN. Or I wouldn't have posted on here.
Check the other post, Someone is quitting. Go ask for his stuffs.

XP wont install (at least from official Microsoft volumes) on your modern computer, because it doesn't have SCSI drivers included to properly recognize your HDD drives.

You have two solutions:

1. Install Windows 7. Install is easy and all essential drivers are included.
2. Download SCSI driver for your motherboard, copy them on floppy (google what it is Smile) and choose them when loading XP installation. Alternatively you can try to make your custom XP bootable DVD with SCSI drivers included using Nlite tool.

But seriously, there is no reason to stay on XP.

SCSI is older than WinXP, they don't sell PC with that crap anymore wtf you talking about. it's all about SATA these days..

some bios have options to format hard drives. Or use your old computer to reformat you main drive. after that just insert the winXP cd.

+1 to what other have said you probably won't use most of your resources using an 11y old dinosaur but do as you wish.
K1netic
Doomheim
#32 - 2013-01-15 11:45:25 UTC
Hans Hoff wrote:
Juan Andalusian wrote:
Hans Hoff wrote:
Andski wrote:
try a 3 year old OS like windows 7 rather than an 11 year old dinosaur

I own a copy of windows XP and after windows 8 I will be F****ked if I give Bill Gates one more cent.
I checked out the net for alternative os BUT MOST SEEM TO BE STILL IN THE DEVELOPMENT STAGE..
Until about an hour ago I was running 4 accounts on an old comp using XP. It has got a loose connection somewhere and I have left it running since early December.. The power cut about an hour ago has made me decide to drag this comp out of its box and fire it up. I would appreciate information how to uninstall windows 8 a replace it with XP.
Although opinions are interesting they are not really helpful.



Jesus.

1) Format the drive.
2) Insert XP DVD into DVD Drive.
3) Set Boot Device.
4) Do what the PC asks you.

I sincerely hope you fail and that someone close to you more computer savvy forces windows 7 on you.


FAIL. Can I get an answer from someone who knows what he's talking about?
Briefly, IT DON'T HAPPEN. Or I wouldn't have posted on here.
Check the other post, Someone is quitting. Go ask for his stuffs.

you fail because that's how you do it. maybe you should try explaining which part exactly you failed at.
Liner Xiandra
Sparks Inc
#33 - 2013-01-15 11:49:10 UTC
K1netic wrote:

you fail because that's how you do it. maybe you should try explaining which part exactly you failed at.


He already did, he was looking in the Windows startup options (f8) instead of his bios.
Emma Knightly
#34 - 2013-01-15 11:49:44 UTC
Downgrading your new PC to Windows XP is fraught with problems.

As others have already warned you it is likely it will come with all the drives including any DVD reader/writer drives connected to SATA ports. Out of the box versions of XP cannot support SATA drives unless you download and install the required drivers during the install process. You will also have trouble even getting the XP install disk to even boot under these circumstances.

An easy way to find out if the disk will boot in your machine is to look at the boot screen when the system starts, look for a keypress for ‘Boot menu’, often tapping either F2 or F8 will get you this screen. You can then select the drive the disk is in and see if it will boot from it.

Also be warned that XP may well not support the motherboard chipsets, video card, USB ports (may well be USB 3) and such like, so again you will have problems getting any external devices to work.

A far better option even thought you may not like it would be to get a copy of Windows 7 which will cover most if not all of the above problems in one fell swoop. You can get an upgrade version of Windows 7 and use it as a downgrade, you can even install it on a clean HD if you don’t mind doing it twice lol.

Windows 8 will run Eve and you can get used to it if you try and stick to the desktop view. Also learning the keyboard shortcuts can be handy. My favourites are (Alt + F4) to shut any running full screen app’s, and the Windows key + Q (Search and Apps list), Windows key + I (settings), there are many more you can find if you try.

One other tip as you are used to XP, download and install Windows Live Essentials to give yourself a reasonable email client, try and install programs not apps to do things (Skype is essential), and make sure you use a Microsoft ID to log in to your computer to allow access to the market place and all the other stuff.

Otherwise whatever you do, good luck Cool
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#35 - 2013-01-15 11:52:03 UTC
XP is getting on a bit now, your new PC is likely to have hardware that XP has no drivers for, USB3, SATA controllers, some onboard sound etc, will not work with XP unless you can find third party drivers for them. I would suggest doing as others have suggested, live with win8 and remove the Metro interface or downgrade to win7, both of which are 2 generations ahead of XP in terms of hardware support.

XP still has it's place, gaming isn't it.

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Dheeradj Nurgle
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Snuffed Out
#36 - 2013-01-15 11:57:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Dheeradj Nurgle
Just so you know, Win8 is perfectly viable without a touchscreen. The new Metro "Start Menu" can be setup to be very usefull with a mouse. You just need to play around a bit to what is comfortable to you. Don't jump on the bandwagon just because it looks different.

XP....XP has it's place on computers, but it's an old dinosaur. If you are dead set on downgrading, downgrade to Win7, but atleast give 8 a chance. Don't be afraid of change.

Learn shortcuts Win+I, Win+X, Win+C. Win+X became a personal favourite of mine. Learn to use "Type to search", just hit the Win Key, and start typing the name of the program you need.
Etherealclams
#37 - 2013-01-15 12:24:22 UTC
Braxus Deninard wrote:
Is this a joke? Windows 8 has the exact same interface as Windows 7 (desktop environment etc, the only change is the lack of the start button, big whoop!), you can turn off the "metro" touch interface with one click, and then you can stop it from ever appearing again.

There is no logical reason to downgrade, W8 has some nice speed improvements over W7 as well.


Exactly. W8 has speed upgrades, other upgrades, plus that menu... which I just set to not appear until I want it to ( I just go straight to desktop ) and it's like it's windows 7 but with speed upgrades!

No reason to go to XP. jesus christ.

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RaTTuS
BIG
#38 - 2013-01-15 12:28:18 UTC
dont use xp -
down grade the interface in win8 to be like win7

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Steve Ronuken
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#39 - 2013-01-15 12:36:27 UTC
Windows XP, 64 bit edition is, to put it politely, not very good.

Windows 7 (or 8) 64 bit edition works without any trouble at all. If you want more than 3.2GB of RAM, go with 7 or 8. I'm using 8 on my laptop and desktop. No trouble at all, and a bunch of benefits.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#40 - 2013-01-15 12:43:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Dheeradj Nurgle wrote:
Just so you know, Win8 is perfectly viable without a touchscreen. The new Metro "Start Menu" can be setup to be very usefull with a mouse. You just need to play around a bit to what is comfortable to you. Don't jump on the bandwagon just because it looks different.
The problem with No-Longer-Metro isn't that it can't be used or that it's different — it's that it's pointless. It is there to solve the issue of multitasking overview on single-task platforms with small-size/lowres screens, a problem that doesn't exist in a multi-task large-size/highres environment.

Metro was obsoleted by type-to-search and similar UI tweaks, which came with Vista(!). All the other things it's supposed to solve aren't issues on a proper full-size computer and instead, it only manages to introduce usability problems because it supposes (and thus imposes) restrictions that come from a completely different platform.

Just because it can be skipped, worked around, or — with large enough a chisel — disabled doesn't make it any less misapplied. It's a wart that should never have existed to begin with because all it does is get in the way, which is pretty much the exact opposite of what a good UI should do.