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Anything that provides more shield points then a large shield extender
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Phanixis Khardula
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2013-01-13 03:48:08 UTC
I have run into a rather interesting situation. I noticed that rolled tungsten plates go up 1600 nm, yet shield extenders stop at large shield extenders, which are roughly equivalent to 800 nm plate. Large shield extenders are supposed to be for battleships according to Eve wiki, and yet I can fit two of them to a cruiser without any trouble at all. It would be nice if the was a larger size, so I could save a mid-slot on my double large shield extender fit. Are their any ship mods out there that would fit this purpose?

Thanks for the help.
Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
#2 - 2013-01-13 04:29:40 UTC
Nope. One of the many differences between shield tanks and armor tanks is that shield buffer mods don't go as high as armor buffer mods. Shield tanks have the invulnerability field, however, as well as ancillary shield boosters; armor has nothing comparable.
Eternal Error
Doomheim
#3 - 2013-01-13 04:51:53 UTC
Armor gets oversized plates, shields get oversized boosters.
Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2013-01-13 05:22:59 UTC
power diagnostic system, goes to low slot

Life is short and dinner time is chancy

Eat dessert first!
Paikis
Vapour Holdings
#5 - 2013-01-13 05:30:03 UTC
Caleidascope wrote:
power diagnostic system, goes to low slot


I see your PDS, and raise you a Layered Plating II.

OP, there is no XL Shield Extender. We may be seeing one "soon (tm)" though. (Blatant conjecture based on unsupported theories)
Theo Ramone
Stryker Industries
Stryker Group
#6 - 2013-01-13 07:13:38 UTC
Kahega Amielden wrote:
Nope. One of the many differences between shield tanks and armor tanks is that shield buffer mods don't go as high as armor buffer mods. Shield tanks have the invulnerability field, however, as well as ancillary shield boosters; armor has nothing comparable.


Ancillary shield booster best shield booster. Until it runs out of charges and I dont notice, and suddenly I;m stuck wondering why someone turned off my ship. :/
Vilnius Zar
SDC Multi Ten
#7 - 2013-01-13 09:04:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Vilnius Zar
Is someone honestly whining about shield extenders not being OP enough? Seriously?

@OP, you get increased hp/s regen from your increased shield HP, if you can somehow make that happen for armor then you can ask for more HP. Also, mass&agility means shield >>>>> armor.
Nikea Tiber
Backwater Enterprises RD
#8 - 2013-01-13 20:40:53 UTC
Shields regenerate, armor doesn't. While shield extenders give you some extra sig radius, plates effect your mobility.
Shield boosters boost your shields practically instantly and they cycle faster, not only do they have an XL size, but they also come in ASB flavors. If you hate that shield boosting is less cap efficient than armor boosting, fit a boost amp or rigs... armor tanking only gets rigs to this effect.
I'm glad that armor tanking and shield tanking are different, homogenization isn't always a good thing.

my other nano is a polycarb
Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-01-14 00:46:23 UTC
2 shield extenders
Phanixis Khardula
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2013-01-14 04:37:16 UTC
Thanks for the feedback. I will have to look into these shield boosters.
Idicious Lightbane
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-01-14 11:07:50 UTC
An XL-ASB will inject far more shield HP than an LSE after it's injected a full load of them. You often need to sacrifice at least 1 slot for fitting usually though, so it all depends.
Instead of looking at ASB's as an active tank module you can see it as injecting more EHP over time, so unless you're getting overwhelmed with DPS it will give you more.
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#12 - 2013-01-14 11:26:40 UTC
A post suggesting that Armor is superior to shields and that needs to be fixed..


What bizzaro world have i stepped into now?

BYDI recruitment closed-ish

Sam Korak
Doomheim
#13 - 2013-01-14 12:14:39 UTC
Real men hull tank.
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-01-14 13:09:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Sergeant Acht Scultz
Phanixis Khardula wrote:
I have run into a rather interesting situation. I noticed that rolled tungsten plates go up 1600 nm, yet shield extenders stop at large shield extenders, which are roughly equivalent to 800 nm plate. Large shield extenders are supposed to be for battleships according to Eve wiki, and yet I can fit two of them to a cruiser without any trouble at all. It would be nice if the was a larger size, so I could save a mid-slot on my double large shield extender fit. Are their any ship mods out there that would fit this purpose?

Thanks for the help.



Yet I can't fit a large armor rep in my cruiser and there's no Xl-armor rep to fit on my battlecruiser, nor XL-ancilary armor reps, and actually can't even fit a simple large armor rep to my BC.

Life sucks.

1-higher resists pool with shield mods: check
2-global EHP similar in between Shield/Armor buffer fits: check (some even more)
3-shield active tanking mods/external rep well above armor tanking: check
4-DED space/Officer shield reps/mods well above armor: check

Life sucks, really.

removed inappropriate ASCII art signature - CCP Eterne
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#15 - 2013-01-14 13:26:08 UTC
Garviel Tarrant wrote:
A post suggesting that Armor is superior to shields and that needs to be fixed..


What bizzaro world have i stepped into now?


One example of things young pilots learn in the Royal Amarr Institute, and our other prestigious universities.

The empires of New Eden are poor, and they can't hire lecturers or even tutors, so they are mostly places where they young go to chat about TV series and what they are currently eating, while they work on the local asteroid fields for minimum wage. And repeat memes like parrots, and tell urban myths to each others are raw facts- they heard it on the campus.

Some run meaningless errands for exploiters they call "Agents", who feed them with a drug called "Goldfish". Goldfish causes short-term memory loss and dullness of mind, making it possible for "Agents" to send their victims to rescue the damsel for two hundred times without these poor students realizing that they are just being leeched from their time, social ties and possibilities for career advancement for tiny reward.

Educational system is the basis of any civilized society, and it is in critical state in New Eden.



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Marc Callan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2013-01-14 17:08:51 UTC
Sam Korak wrote:
Real men hull tank.


Well, Taranis pilots, Orca pilots, and maybe some Dominix pilots hull tank. (Seriously, is there a subcapital beyond those three that can actually pull off a hull tank?)

"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." - Kurt Vonnegurt
Phanixis Khardula
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2013-01-15 02:40:02 UTC
Am I to understand that shield tanking is preferable to armor tanking whenever possible. I am currently flying Amarr ships, which tend to have plentiful lows and good resist for armor tanking. I happen to be flying an arbitrary and running missions so I have no need for propulsion jamming and ewarfare at the moment, but it seems I may not have the luxury of shield tanking if I need to fit for these functions or a run a different Amarr ship.
Random Woman
Very Professional Corporation
#18 - 2013-01-15 10:19:12 UTC
Marc Callan wrote:
Sam Korak wrote:
Real men hull tank.


Well, Taranis pilots, Orca pilots, and maybe some Dominix pilots hull tank. (Seriously, is there a subcapital beyond those three that can actually pull off a hull tank?)



Megathron Navy, Bulkheads II, DC2, and bait away ;)
Vilnius Zar
SDC Multi Ten
#19 - 2013-01-15 11:10:36 UTC
Random Woman wrote:
Marc Callan wrote:
Sam Korak wrote:
Real men hull tank.


Well, Taranis pilots, Orca pilots, and maybe some Dominix pilots hull tank. (Seriously, is there a subcapital beyond those three that can actually pull off a hull tank?)



Megathron Navy, Bulkheads II, DC2, and bait away ;)


In the end everyone hull tanks, if only for a few seconds.
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#20 - 2013-01-15 11:17:11 UTC
Marc Callan wrote:
Sam Korak wrote:
Real men hull tank.


Well, Taranis pilots, Orca pilots, and maybe some Dominix pilots hull tank. (Seriously, is there a subcapital beyond those three that can actually pull off a hull tank?)


New Tristan :) http://shivafurnace.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15879215

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