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Questions about dust from a CEO's perspective

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Zanzbar
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2013-01-15 01:21:01 UTC
it seems the second the games started sharing chat channels the nda became useless.
Alaekessa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
#22 - 2013-01-15 02:07:29 UTC
@CCP FoxFour

I understand the need to keep the economies seperate, though why couldn't the corp tax be deducted from Dust Merc and deposited into the (hidden in eve) Dust Wallet Division?
mkint
#23 - 2013-01-15 03:08:10 UTC
I can pretty much guarantee whoever the nda is supposed to protect CCP from already has dust alts. Nda was useless the instant CCP handed out Beta keys.

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Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#24 - 2013-01-15 05:33:08 UTC
Will dust bunnies be able to form their own corporations without EvE accounts?

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0
Rordan D'Kherr
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2013-01-15 09:49:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Rordan D'Kherr
Frozen Eddie Johnson wrote:
How in the bloody hell can a game have an NDA on Open Beta?


Still closed beta until 22nd Jan.

Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Will dust bunnies be able to form their own corporations without EvE accounts?


This would be good2know. Plus: Can I somehow "clone" my EvE character (char name is important) in DUST without setting up a new?

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CCP FoxFour
C C P
C C P Alliance
#26 - 2013-01-15 10:40:14 UTC
Rordan D'Kherr wrote:
This would be good2know.


Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Will dust bunnies be able to form their own corporations without EvE accounts?


DUST players can create corporations right now.

Rordan D'Kherr wrote:
Plus: Can I somehow "clone" my EvE character (char name is important) in DUST without setting up a new?


No sorry. The only way would be to bio-mass your EVE character and then create a DUST character with the name. DUST and EVE are the same universe on the same server. There cannot be two of you.

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Asklepiodes
Bre-X Heavy Industries
#27 - 2013-01-15 11:30:00 UTC
Forgive my ignorance but can I then use my Eve character to play Dust (on the PS3) if I can't use the same name?
CCP FoxFour
C C P
C C P Alliance
#28 - 2013-01-15 11:33:52 UTC
Asklepiodes wrote:
Forgive my ignorance but can I then use my Eve character to play Dust (on the PS3) if I can't use the same name?


No, you will need to create a new character on your DUST account.

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Mourning Souls
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2013-01-15 12:32:40 UTC
Asklepiodes wrote:
Forgive my ignorance but can I then use my Eve character to play Dust (on the PS3) if I can't use the same name?



You're a spaceship pilot, not a soldier. Of course you're also a clone, and clones can obviously be cloned again. Base clone programming made you a pilot, it could make you a soldier.

Basically make Asklepiodes II. People who know you will most likely recognize you.
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#30 - 2013-01-15 14:17:06 UTC
Mourning Souls wrote:
Asklepiodes wrote:
Forgive my ignorance but can I then use my Eve character to play Dust (on the PS3) if I can't use the same name?



You're a spaceship pilot, not a soldier. Of course you're also a clone, and clones can obviously be cloned again. Base clone programming made you a pilot, it could make you a soldier.

Basically make Asklepiodes II. People who know you will most likely recognize you.

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Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2013-01-16 16:00:50 UTC
CCP FoxFour wrote:
Rakshasa Taisab wrote:
CCP FoxFour wrote:
Keep in mind open beta does not mean no NDA.

This is bound to end well...

I've been following quite a lot of different forums and pretty much everyone of us playing DUST seems to be under the impression that the NDA is getting lifted on the 22nd. Unless you go out and actively start informing people about this there's going to be massive NDA breakage.

Hell, there's even a 24h child's play charity livestream planned and dust devs have posted in that thread so even they don't know the NDA isn't getting lifted.

Assuming that's what you were hinting at.


I am not hinting at anything. I am just pointing out that one thing does not directly mean the other. Players from both communities should just be watching for news about it as I am sure when we do lift it we will announce it. Assumptions are bad. :)



While we're pointing things out, actually telling us whether or not the NDA will actually be lifted would've been a useful response.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=118961

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CCP FoxFour
C C P
C C P Alliance
#32 - 2013-01-16 16:03:29 UTC
Ris Dnalor wrote:
CCP FoxFour wrote:
Rakshasa Taisab wrote:
CCP FoxFour wrote:
Keep in mind open beta does not mean no NDA.

This is bound to end well...

I've been following quite a lot of different forums and pretty much everyone of us playing DUST seems to be under the impression that the NDA is getting lifted on the 22nd. Unless you go out and actively start informing people about this there's going to be massive NDA breakage.

Hell, there's even a 24h child's play charity livestream planned and dust devs have posted in that thread so even they don't know the NDA isn't getting lifted.

Assuming that's what you were hinting at.


I am not hinting at anything. I am just pointing out that one thing does not directly mean the other. Players from both communities should just be watching for news about it as I am sure when we do lift it we will announce it. Assumptions are bad. :)



While we're pointing things out, actually telling us whether or not the NDA will actually be lifted would've been a useful response.


Not my place, sorry. :(

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Acac Sunflyier
The Ascended Academy
#33 - 2013-01-19 20:38:11 UTC
I have another question for C.C.P. about dust from a ceo's perspective.

1) Will dust members be able to access the corporate hangar array for military assets?

2) Will corporations be getting a special dust only corp hangar array?

3) If dusties need to use assets, will a corp person have to hold them in orbit for deployment?

4) Is there a way I, as a ceo, can specify the number of each asset a dust member can use in a single battle before having to use their own assets?
Edward Mungrelson
Nornir Research
Nornir Empire
#34 - 2013-01-20 01:09:22 UTC
CCP FoxFour wrote:
Ris Dnalor wrote:
CCP FoxFour wrote:
Rakshasa Taisab wrote:
CCP FoxFour wrote:
Keep in mind open beta does not mean no NDA.

This is bound to end well...

I've been following quite a lot of different forums and pretty much everyone of us playing DUST seems to be under the impression that the NDA is getting lifted on the 22nd. Unless you go out and actively start informing people about this there's going to be massive NDA breakage.

Hell, there's even a 24h child's play charity livestream planned and dust devs have posted in that thread so even they don't know the NDA isn't getting lifted.

Assuming that's what you were hinting at.


I am not hinting at anything. I am just pointing out that one thing does not directly mean the other. Players from both communities should just be watching for news about it as I am sure when we do lift it we will announce it. Assumptions are bad. :)



While we're pointing things out, actually telling us whether or not the NDA will actually be lifted would've been a useful response.


Not my place, sorry. :(


NDAception.
CCP FoxFour
C C P
C C P Alliance
#35 - 2013-01-20 14:49:24 UTC
Acac Sunflyier wrote:
I have another question for C.C.P. about dust from a ceo's perspective.

1) Will dust members be able to access the corporate hangar array for military assets?

2) Will corporations be getting a special dust only corp hangar array?

3) If dusties need to use assets, will a corp person have to hold them in orbit for deployment?

4) Is there a way I, as a ceo, can specify the number of each asset a dust member can use in a single battle before having to use their own assets?



While this is something we would love to get in, as it stands the only way for corporations to share assets is to share the ISK and have the members buy the blueprints.

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CCP FoxFour
C C P
C C P Alliance
#36 - 2013-01-22 09:31:09 UTC
As there were questions about the NDA in this thread, I am just going to point you all over here: "Announcing the lifting of DUST 514 NDA" https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=52300&find=unread

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Kryss Darkdust
The Skulls
#37 - 2013-01-22 12:01:13 UTC
Don't know that much about DUST but one question that seems to constantly come up (which always includes a long and drawn out complaint) is why is DUST only available on the PS3? Specifically why is it not for the PC given that the EVE community is largely a PC community? More importantly are there any plans to put this on the PC?

I would love to try it, but I think I would prefer a big kick in the balls from a professional NFL kicker than to purchase a playstationsuperbox360 or whatever the hell the kids are calling it these days.

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CCP Guard
C C P
C C P Alliance
#38 - 2013-01-22 12:41:47 UTC
We will be lifting the NDA alongside the start of the open beta today. There will be tons of media coverage probably as well so everyone interested in the nitty gritty of the whole thing should have a good day today :)

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Alexandros Balfros
Liberty Rogues
Aprilon Dynasty
#39 - 2013-01-22 14:22:50 UTC
Darth Khasei wrote:
Frozen Eddie Johnson wrote:

How in the bloody hell can a game have an NDA on Open Beta? I can't think of another game (that wasn't a total failure that the devs were trying to hide) that would do something as stupid as keep an NDA on for Open Beta. This is worrying.

Edit: On another note, IMHO the NDA should have been lifted before DUST ever touched the live EVE server. Dust bunnies can affect FW control on tranquility, yet we aren't even allowed to discuss anything about DUST? This makes no sense whatsoever.


Respect Cool

Agreed. This action by CCP appears to lack sound rationale.


CCP opted to release a sub par shooter in to a market already saturated with modern shooters, what makes you think CCP has ever thought rationally about dust :P
Darth Khasei
Wavestar Business Ventures Inc.
#40 - 2013-01-28 08:56:07 UTC
Alexandros Balfros wrote:

CCP opted to release a sub par shooter in to a market already saturated with modern shooters, what makes you think CCP has ever thought rationally about dust :P



Respect. Cool

Point well taken.
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