EVE New Citizens Q&A

Hi guys,

I'm going on my second month here and hit a snag. I'm running L3s just fine and dandy and know how to scan down things but its so boring doing the same thing over and over again with little gain.

I can't do L4s any time soon because even though I have the standings I can't afford the ship/fittings and from what I've heard I need a lot more skills to do them well. I can only do L3s for so long before it gets to boring.

I've tried exploration and can't seem to find anything other than random DED complexes, I've been told radar are the best to find but I never seem to get those in low/null/high sec.

I've gone hunting for people in low-sec and done alright, killed a T2 fit rifter with my vexor while also being podded several times fighting with locals. PVP is definitely fun and my alliance will pick up doing a lot of it once were done with our current project. The problem is its hard to find people in low sec the systems are either empty or there's a blob waiting to warp to a gate. Solo pvp in null sec is suicide so that's out too.

Industry/invention/mining bore the crap out of me so that's out as well.

I don't think 5 mill isk is a big enough pool to trade on either so that is out as well.

Eve feels sort of stagnant right now, any suggestions to pass the time while I wait on skill training?

Stop training your skills now. Go and find stuff to do that you can enjoy doing with your current skill set. Only train the skills that will enhance your enjoyment of the game.

No, my names not Shirley. No, I'm not joking.

If waiting for skills to train is killing your enjoyment of the game, stop training skills. Stop training any more SP until you know which skills you'll actually use to enhance your enjoyment of the game.

But even if you aren't brave enough to take the "no more waiting for skills to train" challenge, at least go and find something to do with your current skills that you actually enjoy.

You're doing it wrong then. Get away from population clusters (mission/trade hubs and a few jumps out) and you will find more of the stuff. Maybe you are only using the scanner and not probes?

To be quite honest you're mindset is either wrong or EVE isn't the game you are looking for.
(The good Sir, and Mara is right)

I also find waiting for skills boring so what I did was buy plex, sell it for isk and buy bunch of rifters with best gear I can currently use and just went into lowsec with them. I don't feel like paying for watching skill progress is proper use of my real life money, I prefer to spend some more and have fun.

If I ever get remotely bored with EVE it always helps to either change the location (mind you there's very many systems you have been to yet) and/or meet new people.

This means for example when you want to do lvl 4 but can't do them yourselves how about looking for people that can do them but would like to have company. I know there's people that do, even if you are not that much helping their effectiveness at doing it.

If you can't take on fights in null sec you may want to eitehr find a group that can or even join one that entirely lives there. You'll get null sec fights for sure then.
Also in my opinion it's a common misconception thinking that it needs a killmail to be called PVP. Sneaking around in hostile areas and not getting shot at (successfully avoiding the so called PVP) can be much fun too and since it is interaction with the ones trying to blow you up is very much is PVP.

A stock of 5 million would make a rather slow start for trading but basically any amount is enough. You can run a couple of missions to have more to start too. If you were certain about the trading part you could even sell your mission running ship. I would not say it would be a good idea tho. Better always have options in case something turns out not so well.

Have to agree with spitfire here. Even if you're training skills for the lol factor (Elite Hull Tanking certificate for example), train SOMETHING. Give yourself small goals.

See the below hypothetical situation (you're Amarrian, so Harby or Prophecy it is for the ship)

-- you want to fly L4's ? OK, I'm gonna need a BC to start out ... (this becomes the only "need to have")

-- Which BC? Well ... hm, I've got good gunnery skills, but my cap skills are crap. Prophecy it is!

-- OK, time to take on these L4 missions!!!

-- "Oh crap! I'm at 30% armour! WARP DAMN YOU WARP!!!!"

-- hmm... lessee... already have a DCU 2, MAR II, and some decent tank modules ... maybe these armour compensation skills will help out a enough so I don't have to keep warping out to repair...

-- OK, now that I can sit here and take the punishment from the rats ... maybe it's time to hit a little harder ... these gunnery support skills (i.e. sharpshooter or motion prediction) might do the trick...

-- OK, I'm doing really well in this BC ... maybe now it's time to be able to blitz these sites in a BS (and you start training BS skills).


The whole time after getting into the BC (the "prereq" for running L4), you were running L4 missions and having fun getting blown to hell. You weren't sitting in station thinking "I can't even try these L4 missions til I get into a BS"

There's all kinds of fun things to do in Eve, you just have to be creative (it is a sandbox after all). Once you get to a certain point in the game, skills start taking weeks to train, instead of hours or days. At that point you can either only log on to train skills and eventually fall away from the game because you're just training skills and never feel like you have enough skills to do stuff or you can ignore your skill queue and focus on what there is to do (instead of what you can't do yet). Personally, I've gotten to the point where it almost surprises me when a skill finishes because I've all but forgotten about it. Focus on what you can do and have fun with that instead of concentrating on what you can't do and getting bored/discouraged.

There were a lot of great ideas already laid out in this thread, so I won't repeat them, but I will toss out another idea that I haven't seen yet. Take a T1 frig, fit it for speed, get a clone with no implants, and take off in your frig and see how far you can get into nullsec without dieing. Either try and get to the furthest corners of Eve (look on the map and just set the course for them) or go and make a loop around nullsec. If you get bored and want to get back to your base quick, it shouldn't take more than a few minutes to find someone willing to pod you back to highsec (you're in a clean clone afterall).

I agree to the theory. But instead of not training anything train something that takes a long freaking time and benefits all combat ships. I would suggest training Advance Weapon Upgrade to lvl 5. Will give you a 25 percent reduction on CPU and Powergrid for all weapon systems. While your taking a month to do that go find something new and fun to do.

^TY. was wondering what was going on lol