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I have never done incursions...please fill me in

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Maximus Reborn
Assasinated Zombies
#1 - 2013-01-14 19:21:40 UTC
If anyone has a link to general and specefic incursion info please link thankyou I have no problem reading and learning for my self. But please feel free to answer some of my ?s


1 What size fleet do I need realistically?
2 What ships are best Pirate BS / t3 I assume but which ones?
3 How is LP split if more then one fleet is running it? Or can more than one run it?
4 How much does the average person make an hour?


Thank.. and like I said please link info that isnt BC related as I cant go on there.
Flakey Foont
#2 - 2013-01-14 19:33:49 UTC
Maximus Reborn
Assasinated Zombies
#3 - 2013-01-14 19:37:57 UTC



Hoping for something ccp released and not some random eve ******. 2 I swas also hoping for some quick answers to the questions I had... wow that would have taken 10 seconds...
goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#4 - 2013-01-14 20:27:19 UTC
For Vanguards, the easiest of the sites not including scouts as they are soloable, you will need a fleet of 9 to 12.

Currently the pirate faction BS seems to be the best overall ships for completing them in the least amount of time. Machariel, Nightmare, Vindicator.

The LP is paid when the incursion is completed (Mother ship is killed). ISK and LP is only paid to the fleet that does the most damage in a site, so yes two fleets can run a site but only one gets paid.

In a top notch fleet 100mil an hour is an easy goal, though 140mil is possible through Contesting, efficiency, and higher end sites (Assaults and HQ's).

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.

Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
#5 - 2013-01-14 21:11:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Bugsy VanHalen
Maximus Reborn wrote:



Hoping for something ccp released and not some random eve ******. 2 I swas also hoping for some quick answers to the questions I had... wow that would have taken 10 seconds...

There are no CCP released guides for anything. Even EVE wiki is mostly done by players. Eve survival for example is the best source for mission guides/walkthroughs. If you are waiting for a incursion guide from CCP you will never see it.

There are a lot of options for what can run incursions successfully. I am sure if you jumped in you would learn quickly what works and what does not. However the current trend is running them in very expensive ships as the risk is lower, and the faster completion times lead to greater isk/hr.

Also as mentioned contesting has become popular. That is when another fleet jumps in to the incursion you have been fighting , does more damage than your fleet and steals all the rewards. basically you get screwed out of the loyalty point rewards for moving to slow. incursions are getting far more competitive then they were, and the more damage you can do with less ships means getting them done faster with less players splitting the reward. it is a bad time to try learning incursions on your own.

This is all pretty much common sense, but what it comes down to is you need experience and the right ships to make good isk running incursions. Once you get that the isk is really good, as stated 100M/hr normal.

You will not get the needed experience or good isk jumping in with a bunch of friends that are also new to incursions. Not that you would not be able to run the site, but you will lose most of your isk to those who contest your site. Get into the incursion community, and follow the direction of the FC's. As you learn and get better you will get into better fleets. Once you know what to do, and when, you can start thinking about FCing your own fleet of friends. Incursions are far to competitive right now to jump in and learn on your own from scratch.

P.S. the fact that the eve forums do not block the link should tell you CCP endorses that guide.
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2013-01-15 05:56:14 UTC
This link (with those on that page) have good enough info on what to prepare and more or less how to run. I take it doesn't have some advanced doctrines though.

Incursions on UniWiki
Kiran
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2013-01-27 13:26:20 UTC
Take a look here for fitting help on ships.

http://incursions.nexsoft.de/?mode=dps