Ships & Modules

Branch out to another race ?

You look like you have good Hybrid skills, there are a lot of Caldari ships that use them ...

you do know that proteus do not have to be nano? usual dual rep prot tanks everything while perma AB and shooting left and right.
Ans trust me. maras do worth it.

charizard. definitely charizard.

At 20million skillpoints you're probably not flying much with good skills, given that you're split between indy and combat. Train your support skills for a bit.

Also, that proteus fit you posted does ~580 DPS, which for highsec pve is pitiful. Use a dominix instead, it can push nearly 1500 while still maintaining a decent tank. Or a vindi if you prefer rails, since it gets about the same DPS.

vindi for the windi


then go incursioning, get lots of isk, get deadspace fits, get pirate cruisers and have fun in PvP

I used to run vanguards using a vindi and a pair of basilisk alts, + some scrub alts sitting on the gate to collect payouts, the isk was insane and I became very aware of how absurd 90% webs can be (and I much better understand why they were nerfed ages ago)

You would incursion with only 1 ship doing DPS?

Meh, I was just thinking go to some group (like TVP) in a shield fit hyperion, then earn the isk for a vindi, and then go with some group that requires higher-end fits (since if everyone is flying a better ship, you make isk faster).

Pimp it out, get used to making hundred of million of isk per day (just playing a few hours), then use the ISK flow to fund some PvP.

Of course as others have said.... cross-train, those pirate faction ships are awesome, and you're less affected by balancing changes

regarding T2 ships - I think the recent changes have made caldari a bit better, ever since they got hybrid damage bonuses in place of range bonuses, but kept the resist bonuses - which give a larger buffer and better EHP rep rate, plus shield tanks are faster and can use the ASB - though T2 aren't so great at the moment given all the t1 rebalance that has been done.


Or...

get a Navy Dominix, I like it much better than the navy Megathron.
It can shield tank a lot better, a shield tanked gank fit can also throw out some pretty impressive DPS (over 1000, >500 from rails >500 from drones)
Deadspace invulns/hardeners/shield boosters will let you use less mids to tank, and still fit omnis and TCs to apply that damage
Or consider that an Armor tank basically gives you a free EM hardener and a free thermal resistance amp, while a shield tank effectively gives you a free EXp hardener and a free kineetic amp - fit shield or armor tank depending on the rat type you face - shield for angels, armor for sansha/Blood raiders, as you wish for Guristas or serpentis... etc (guristas and serp, as they deal more kinetic than thermal, and the base resists for shields are higher than armor for kin 40 vs 35, but the thermal resist is lower 20 vs 35)

Used to be that the vindi could clear an NCO in 6 minutes between payouts, NMCs about 10-12 minutes, and I didn't bother with OTAs. It's only about half the speed of a proper fleet, but when you're looking at getting 6-8 payouts per site and you don't have to wait on other people who go afk/take time to form up, the isk piles up VERY quickly. Even now I'd bet NCOs wouldn't take more than 7-8 minutes or so, but I haven't run them since the last batch of changes so I can't be sure. You would be amazed at how much time gets lost in sites with people locking the same targets/warping together/being inattentive.

Sounds like you spend an awfully large amount of time listening to what others have to say. Try some out yourself.

No the proteus isn't the best mission runner. Medium rails are still basically crap, and blasters have no range.

But IMO a proteus can be some of the most fun running missions. It can tank like a beast, and it can be tons of fun burning into those NPC battleships and then ripping them to shreds.

Ishtar still works fine. An Ishtar always shined as a sentry platform. Sentries actually tank like a boss, so just orbit them and throw a small RR in the highs. Some missions even before retribution I would let my drones take agro cause I could keep them alive easy enough and if not just pull and redeploy. with some omnis fit, sentries will blap most if not all of the frigates before they even get in range.

If you are bored with what you have been flying just train up all of the racial cruisers to 5. In my opinion they are by and far the best skills you can train in the game. They open up SOOOOOO many different ships. Recons, Logis, HACs, t3s, etc, etc.

Just make sure you have already trained up Battle Cruisers 5, Destroyers 5, all racial frigs 4, and all racial cruisers 3.