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How Long Should it Take to Earn Level 2 Missions

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Phanixis Khardula
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2013-01-14 04:42:26 UTC
My friends decided to use the Yona system as a base of operations, which is in Minmatar space. I have been trying to grind up to level 2 missions and have carried out a couple dozen and I am still stuck doing level one missions. Is there a penalty for playing an Amarr character that is preventing me from earning these missions? Why is it taking so long to grind out level 2 missions?

Thanks for the information.
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-01-14 04:52:21 UTC
Phanixis Khardula wrote:
My friends decided to use the Yona system as a base of operations, which is in Minmatar space. I have been trying to grind up to level 2 missions and have carried out a couple dozen and I am still stuck doing level one missions. Is there a penalty for playing an Amarr character that is preventing me from earning these missions? Why is it taking so long to grind out level 2 missions?

Thanks for the information.


Honestly, I'm not sure how long it's supposed to take, very few people do, as Connections lvl3 puts you directly into it after one lvl1. Considering the tiny standing gain from lvl1s, it may be a long time. The smart thing here is probably do as everyone else does and train Connections. Lvl 3-4 takes no time and is definitely worth it.
goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#3 - 2013-01-14 04:53:40 UTC
If you check the individual standings for each mission: (Open standings in your carachter sheet, find the corp not the faction that your running missions for) double click the icon for the corp, and see how much your gaining for each mission, it should give you a good idea of how many more you will have ot do before you get the standings required for the next agent.

Also check the agent's info for the agent your trying to get, it should tell you the standings needed for that agent. And finally make sure your current standings twards Minmitar are not below -2.0 as you will not get a LVL-2 agent till the faction standings are above -2.

Hope some of that was helpfull

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.

goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#4 - 2013-01-14 04:56:04 UTC
Oh one more thing, a short cut or sorts. Ask if anyone in local would be willing to Fleet you for a LVL-4 mission the standings gain from as little as one LVL-4 should give you the boost needed for a LVL-2 agent

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.

Texty
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-01-14 06:55:24 UTC
goldiiee wrote:
Oh one more thing, a short cut or sorts. Ask if anyone in local would be willing to Fleet you for a LVL-4 mission the standings gain from as little as one LVL-4 should give you the boost needed for a LVL-2 agent

This is a good idea if you don't want to train Connections. As for standing gain, I think you'll need about 5 to 8 shared level 4 missions to get to 1.0 from 0.0. When your standing is 0.0, average level 4 missions (shared by 2 people) should give you about 0.07-0.15 standing increase per mission. Missions like Angel Extravaganza will give you something like 0.20+, while the whole 5 sequence of the level 1 mission "After the Seven" (done solo) gives you only 0.08 standing increase total.
Doddy
Excidium.
#6 - 2013-01-14 15:13:40 UTC
If you did the tutorial and career missions level 2 should be available immediately, or at least with 1 level of connections. And for the whole faction at that.
Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
#7 - 2013-01-14 19:36:42 UTC
train connections, and negotiation, under social skills. connections boosts your standings with everyone. negotiations boosts the payout of missions. train security connections as well as it improves the loyalty points you get from missions as well as the standings boost you get from each mission.

The standing boosts work a little funny. I am not 100% on this as I have not tested it in depth, but from my experience it seems to work like this. The % boost you get is a percentage of how far you are from 10.0 standings. So if you are at 0.0 a 2% gain would be 2% of 10.0 while if you were at 9.2 standings 2% would be 2% of 0.8 the remaining amount you have to get to 10.0. What this means is the lower your standings the easier it is to get them up.

The connections skill likewise grants you a % bonus. So with connections trained to 4, a single mission completed it will boost you high enough to run level 2 missions. Just make sure you are running missions for the same corp as the level 2 missions agent you plan to work for. If it is a different corp you will need to get faction standings up which takes way way longer. Faction standings only go up from storyline missions which you will get one for every 16 regular missions you complete. Tutorial missions are all storyline missions and can give you a decent boost to your chosen faction right off the bat. if you run all the tutorials and train a couple levels of connections you should be able to run level 2 missions without ever needing to run level 1 missions.

If you are in a different factions space, other than your own race where you started you can run the tutorial missions again for that factions starting area. been a while since I did that so can not tell you where to go. It should be in the help menu to send you to the nearest tutorial agent. If not just google it.
Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-01-14 21:59:10 UTC
[Agent Finder]

is your friend ..
When docked in a station look on the right hand side for the agents tab and open it, then click the above named little button.

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2013-01-14 23:44:16 UTC
All very good replies posted in this thread. Best to train up Social, Connections and Negotiation at least to level 3 asap.


Social will increase the amount of standing gained for mission completion (5% per level to NPC Agent, Corporation and Faction standing increase).

Connections will increase your effective positive standing (4% per level to friendly NPC Corporations and Factions).

Negotiation will increase the amount of mission payment (5% per level for agent mission rewards).


Standings modified by Social skills is used to access agents. There's 3 different standings that govern access to agents. If any of these three standings fall to -2.00 or lower, no access will be available. If using Corporation standing for agent access, the Faction must remain above -2.00 standing.

Faction = High standing allows access to all agents in all corporations in that specific Faction.
Corporation = High standing allows access to all agents in that specific Corporation.
Agent = High standing allows access to that specific agent.

Standing required per Agent level :

Level 1 = Available to all regardless of Faction and Corporation standing.
Level 2 = +1.00 standing
Level 3 = +3.00 standing
Level 4 = +5.00 standing
Level 5 = +7.00 standing

Note:
To regain access to a specific agent who's standing has dropped to -2.00 or lower, Fleet up with another character who has access to that specific agent and share rewards as mission completed in Fleet. Eventually the Agent standing will increase allowing access to that specific agent again.


DMC
Phanixis Khardula
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2013-01-15 02:55:04 UTC
Thanks for the advice. I found the skills you mentioned on the market and am now training them up. Hopefully I can start running some higher level missions.
Aramatheia
Tiffany and Co.
#11 - 2013-01-15 04:41:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Aramatheia
not sure what i did differently but i had the ability to run lvl 2's from 0.00 amarr navy within a couple of days, i infact did lvl 1 and 2 missions (mostly 1's) all the way to 8.0 and it only took a week, granted i did not loot a thing or salvage and i blitzed what missions were blitz capable. I guess it depends if you are wanting to actually make some cash along the way or just throttle your way through standings like i was

Also i guess it depends on the group you are raising standings for, i did amarr navy and theres many systems clustered with lvls 1, 2 and 3 agents all within 2-3 jumps with like a dozen lvl 1 agents. I guess some other groups may be alot more scattered and difficult to rapidly mission for (unless empire standings dont matter and you do faction kill missions)