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Thinking of joining a WH corp
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Complex Potential
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-01-14 13:27:50 UTC
For example, a corp who run C5 sites and basically live there. I am wondering what sort of preperation I should do to make myself more attractive to them (short of lipstick).

I understand that T3 Cruisers are particularly useful for their versatilty but I have an issue: I can train to fly a Proteus in less than 2 weeks since I already have lots of Gallente skills but everyone keeps talking about the Tengu being the PVE ship of choice. Unfortunately the Tengu will take almost 2 months to train up properly if I include HAM II and HML II.

So, should I just train the proteus in two weeks or is the tengu so much better that it's worth the two months?

Thanks
Cheesy Feet
The Hells Bells Club
#2 - 2013-01-14 14:37:54 UTC
Proteus for PvP

Tengu for PvE it's that simple but ditch the HAM training and just got for Heavies for PvE
Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#3 - 2013-01-14 14:51:04 UTC
Well that was fast you got tired of RVB.

Anyways, while the tengu is the prefered PVE t3, the proteus is the prefered PVP one in WH space. But do you have gallente battleship skills? I have heard that they are also quite common for WH PVE.

A loki can also be a valid choice since it is often used as a webber by WH corps who use caps for PVE. I don't know how much skills you got in minmatar ships, but atleast you dont have to train up missile skills.

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Complex Potential
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-01-14 15:02:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Complex Potential
Mizhir wrote:
Well that was fast you got tired of RVB.

Anyways, while the tengu is the prefered PVE t3, the proteus is the prefered PVP one in WH space. But do you have gallente battleship skills? I have heard that they are also quite common for WH PVE.

A loki can also be a valid choice since it is often used as a webber by WH corps who use caps for PVE. I don't know how much skills you got in minmatar ships, but atleast you dont have to train up missile skills.


Don't get me wrong, RvB is good fun but I'm just planning ahead and trying to keep my options open for when I inevitably run out of isk. If it's going to take several months to train up for WH space then I consider RvB to be an ideal place to keep my eye in until then, doesn't mean I'm planning on going straight away. Who knows, maybe RvB will wow me enough that I'll drop the WH thing altogether but I've never even been inside one so I'd very much like to experience it.

Gallente BS skills are quite good, T2 sentries, T2 hybrids and Gallente BS 4 so that's interesting to know.

Loki would probably be quicker to train than Tengu actually, thank you.
Omen Nihilo
Omen Holdings
#5 - 2013-01-14 15:06:54 UTC
Go for the Proteus, then crosstrain Minmatar or train into a Moros.
Sushi Nardieu
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-01-14 15:24:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Sushi Nardieu
Depends on how your corp makes isk. For example, my corp has no tengus for PvE.

I would personally aim for one armour and one shield T3. That doesn't mean all other ships are ruled out mind you.

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Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#7 - 2013-01-14 15:26:32 UTC
Complex Potential wrote:
Mizhir wrote:
Well that was fast you got tired of RVB.

Anyways, while the tengu is the prefered PVE t3, the proteus is the prefered PVP one in WH space. But do you have gallente battleship skills? I have heard that they are also quite common for WH PVE.

A loki can also be a valid choice since it is often used as a webber by WH corps who use caps for PVE. I don't know how much skills you got in minmatar ships, but atleast you dont have to train up missile skills.


Don't get me wrong, RvB is good fun but I'm just planning ahead and trying to keep my options open for when I inevitably run out of isk. If it's going to take several months to train up for WH space then I consider RvB to be an ideal place to keep my eye in until then, doesn't mean I'm planning on going straight away. Who knows, maybe RvB will wow me enough that I'll drop the WH thing altogether but I've never even been inside one so I'd very much like to experience it.

Gallente BS skills are quite good, T2 sentries, T2 hybrids and Gallente BS 4 so that's interesting to know.

Loki would probably be quicker to train than Tengu actually, thank you.


Hehe, lot of ppl say that, me included, but some of them just end up staying in the madhouse :P


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SojournerRover
Explorer Corps
#8 - 2013-01-14 15:29:25 UTC  |  Edited by: SojournerRover
Gila with sentry drones and an RR tengu fleet will do fine.
A drake with an RR tengu fleet will do fine.
There is a millon ways to skin a cat!

You know some people still use BASI's

Find a corp that runs PVE using armor, Guardians etc.


Train the protues then switch to a loki for PVP.

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Malception
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-01-14 15:42:29 UTC
Complex, it wasn't too long ago that I was in a similar situation to your own. The fundamental rule of all internet spaceships, regardless of where you make your home is the same: don't fly what you can't afford to lose.

If you're short of space-bucks then plan on bringing some lesser ships to PvE/PvP in the wormhole. In place of the prot bring a Stealth Bomber or a BC. Don't bring a battleship - it will ruin all those tight holes and your new corp will hate you. Until you get the ISK for a Tengu or Loki just help do the salvaging and hopefully the site runners will tip you. Normally salvaging is bltchwork, but you have to start somewhere.

When you do get the money get your T3s.

And of course the first ship you should bring to the hole is a Helios with epic scanning skills. If you can't scan you'll be pretty worthless.
Complex Potential
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-01-14 15:56:46 UTC
Malception wrote:
Complex, it wasn't too long ago that I was in a similar situation to your own. The fundamental rule of all internet spaceships, regardless of where you make your home is the same: don't fly what you can't afford to lose.

If you're short of space-bucks then plan on bringing some lesser ships to PvE/PvP in the wormhole. In place of the prot bring a Stealth Bomber or a BC. Don't bring a battleship - it will ruin all those tight holes and your new corp will hate you. Until you get the ISK for a Tengu or Loki just help do the salvaging and hopefully the site runners will tip you. Normally salvaging is bltchwork, but you have to start somewhere.

When you do get the money get your T3s.

And of course the first ship you should bring to the hole is a Helios with epic scanning skills. If you can't scan you'll be pretty worthless.

Thank you for the advice.

I have over 3 bil in liquid isk at the moment and already own several buzzards with pretty good scanning abilities. My plan would be to buy a T3 initially for pve and attempt to keep it out of player engagements until I'd earned enough to purchase a dedicated pvp T3 ship and happily laugh about losing it cos I'll have so much isk.

I agree that initially I'd probably not be dropping isk on a pvp T3 ship. Some other, cheaper alternative would be more appropriate initially.
Abis Cann
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-01-14 21:05:01 UTC
Complex Potential wrote:
I have over 3 bil in liquid isk at the moment and already own several buzzards with pretty good scanning abilities. My plan would be to buy a T3 initially for pve and attempt to keep it out of player engagements until I'd earned enough to purchase a dedicated pvp T3 ship and happily laugh about losing it cos I'll have so much isk.

I agree that initially I'd probably not be dropping isk on a pvp T3 ship. Some other, cheaper alternative would be more appropriate initially.


You have the right idea. Each corp does things a bit differently so you'll probably want to see what they need first before going down a skill path anyway. If you join a decent w-space group the ISK will come quick so it won't be long until you're ballin'. As mentioned, scanning skills are key. Get all of them to at least IV and spring for the Sisters' launcher and probes. You should also learn how to use your d-scanner effectively as there's no local to lean on and eyes can only see so much.
Corbulo Doubleday
Doomheim
#12 - 2013-01-14 21:36:05 UTC
Malception wrote:
Until you get the ISK for a Tengu or Loki just help do the salvaging and hopefully the site runners will tip you. Normally salvaging is bltchwork, but you have to start somewhere.


If your corp views the salvager as the lowest of low, then you're obviously in the wrong place. Those site runners should be glad you aren't running off with their hard earned spoils.



What I would recommend, Complex, is looking at the available choices, joining the public channels, and getting to know the members. While all wormhole corps are wary of spies, most will be pretty up front about how they do pve.

Most c5 and c6 corps use armor ships, pulsar inhabitants aside. This is where capital skills, Thanatos is mostly useless though P, come in handy and will be sure to get you noticed. Moros, Loki, and Archon are the watchwords.

Most corps in c4 and lower use shield ships, unless in a wolf-rayet. Tengus are king in this realm, but that doesn't mean you can't participate. I've recently heard of groups running c4's in tier 3 bc's with basi support to great effect.

On the PVP side the same is also true. Some groups though lean toward shield setups for pvp but the majority do use armor unless the situation calls for something different.

It really is more about who you join and where they live than anything else.
Casirio
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-01-14 21:41:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Casirio
Sushi Nardieu wrote:
I would personally aim for one armour and one shield T3. That doesn't mean all other ships are ruled out mind you.


This is a good rule of thumb for any wormhole corp or alliance, imo. Loki being the jack of all trades for PvE cap escalations and for pvp in high class wormholes. Every one has its use and still be able to have a cloaky/prober config.

PS once your skills are up i recommend taking the dive into the deep end in a wh corp/alliance. best thing I ever did in Eve
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-01-14 22:13:11 UTC
Omen Nihilo wrote:
Go for the Proteus, then crosstrain Minmatar or train into a Moros.


^this.

don't join any c5/6 corp that use tengus for PVE.

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Ayeson
State War Academy
Caldari State
#15 - 2013-01-14 22:21:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Ayeson
Jack Miton wrote:
don't join any c5/6 corp that use tengus for PVE.


Not sure if you meant to say PvE or PvP, but it's OK at both. It is, after all, a strategic cruiser with multiple roles.

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WInter Borne
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#16 - 2013-01-14 22:29:16 UTC
Ayeson wrote:
Jack Miton wrote:
don't join any c5/6 corp that use tengus for PVE.


Not sure if you meant to say PvE or PvP, but it's OK at both. It is, after all, a strategic cruiser with multiple roles.

Armor tengus...they work (until the pop)!
Wolvun
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2013-01-15 00:18:25 UTC
TBH i think ship choice is one of the lesser concerns, you should start browsing recruitment threads for WH corps/alliances and find one or a few that suit your needs/wants. Jump in their public chat and get to know them and talk to them about ship requirements a lot will have large requirements to join but many will also have other options while you train T3's there is many rolls to fill in both PVE and PVP.
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ElitistOps
Deepwater Hooligans
#18 - 2013-01-15 03:46:45 UTC
For C5/C6 corps I would recommend the Loki.

It is versatile and can be armor or shield tanked and is useful in pve and pvp, so you can make isk and blow people up.

More important would be scanning skills, 4's in each (I would recommend Astrometrics to 5)
Sushi Nardieu
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2013-01-15 06:24:42 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
Omen Nihilo wrote:
Go for the Proteus, then crosstrain Minmatar or train into a Moros.


^this.

don't join any c5/6 corp that use tengus for PVE.


This. (tengu thing)

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Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#20 - 2013-01-15 10:58:36 UTC
The type of hole the corp is based in can have an influence too

you dont want an armour tanking ship/fit if they are based out of a pulsar
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