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Oxygen Isotope prices are about to explode.
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Gilbert Intaki
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-01-13 22:49:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Gilbert Intaki
Check out the chart.
But more importantly, check out the impact on ice mining The New Order is having on the number of people mining the Blue Ice belts in Gallente Space:

Just one of the New Order's killboards

Another one.
Bit of overlap between the two, but not a lot.


Just a question of time before this supply squeeze feeds through to Jita market prices.
Buy it now.
Saul Voss
TWiZTED CHAOZ
#2 - 2013-01-13 22:53:42 UTC
Yeah tbh, although this game is hardcore, this just went too far.
Tesal
#3 - 2013-01-13 22:55:37 UTC
Oh no. Now I have to panic buy. QUICK.
Gilbert Intaki
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-01-13 23:35:11 UTC
Saul Voss wrote:
Yeah tbh, although this game is hardcore, this just went too far.


You're entitled to your opinion.
But I am pretty sure I predicted the PLEX crash accurately... Big smile
Joshua Vaughn Lampen
Archer Investments Initiative
#5 - 2013-01-13 23:50:59 UTC
Yeah because this is even close to the first Ice Interdiction...
Gilbert Intaki
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-01-13 23:53:32 UTC
Joshua Vaughn Lampen wrote:
Yeah because this is even close to the first Ice Interdiction...


Hey - Aren't you the Ponzi scheme guy.??
Joshua Vaughn Lampen
Archer Investments Initiative
#7 - 2013-01-14 00:01:25 UTC
Gilbert Intaki wrote:
Joshua Vaughn Lampen wrote:
Yeah because this is even close to the first Ice Interdiction...


Hey - Aren't you the Ponzi scheme guy.??


Bad rebuttal is bad. They don't have near the capabilities that the planners of the 1st Ice Interdiction had and ultimately will make no more than a ripple in the overall market. Thanks for putting on the market savant tinfoil hat and trying to make some claims though.
Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#8 - 2013-01-14 00:01:36 UTC
Ponzi Scheme Guy vs Market Manipulation Guy.

Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal
admiral root
Red Galaxy
#9 - 2013-01-14 00:07:15 UTC
Joshua Vaughn Lampen wrote:
Bad rebuttal is bad. They don't have near the capabilities that the planners of the 1st Ice Interdiction had and ultimately will make no more than a ripple in the overall market.


This is all perfectly true. It's a good thing, then, that the purpose of the New Order isn't to affect oxygen isotope prices, but rather to enforce compliance with the Code.

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
Wescro
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-01-14 00:08:10 UTC
We've already had a measurable effect on the price of White Glaze during our operations in Caldari high-sec, as I outlined in my post on the OFFICIAL New Order forums.

http://crossingzebras.com/2013/02/17/csm8ripardteg/
Joshua Vaughn Lampen
Archer Investments Initiative
#11 - 2013-01-14 00:29:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Joshua Vaughn Lampen
Wescro wrote:
We've already had a measurable effect on the price of White Glaze during our operations in Caldari high-sec, as I outlined in my post on the OFFICIAL New Order forums.


Like I said, a ripple in the overall market. Combine limited ganking with knowledge of impending ganking and a decent pile of ISK to manipulate the market = short-term ripple.

The undue panic buying of Nitrogen Isotopes that occurred between the 7th to the 11th is what actually moved the market. Why people get nervous when they hear Ice and ganking is beyond me when it doesn't involve an organization organically large enough to move the markets on its own.
mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-01-14 00:43:18 UTC
Well of course, everyone knows that James315 is really just Mittani in disguise, which means that the New Order members are agents of us goons whether they know it or not, which means the organization has the full backing of Goonswarm. Ergo, Oxytopes are about to spike.


Or something. I'm not so good at this conspiracy theory thing.

Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal
Alex Grison
Grison Universal
#13 - 2013-01-14 03:10:35 UTC
what a shi­tty pump and dump attempt

yes
GreenSeed
#14 - 2013-01-14 03:45:14 UTC  |  Edited by: GreenSeed
yet another new order killboard with only macks in it.... speaks volumes of the incredible levels of retardation among highsec miners.

oxy prices might go up a little, but they will never go up more than 30% over any long period of time. why? well, you cant gank or bump a 600ms/100k+ ehp skiff in highsec. and 20%, 30% is the yield difference between a failfit mack and a properly tanked Skiff.


i mean, you could trow 12 - 14 catalysts at it, but that will cost 80misk and has a VERY high chance of failing. and even if you do get a kill, the skiff is way too cheap. (120m fitted)

and no, don't go buy skiffs now, smarter people than you already bought the ones going for material cost.
Wescro
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#15 - 2013-01-14 04:45:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Wescro
GreenSeed wrote:
yet another new order killboard with only macks in it.... speaks volumes of the incredible levels of retardation among highsec miners.

oxy prices might go up a little, but they will never go up more than 30% over any long period of time. why? well, you cant gank or bump a 600ms/100k+ ehp skiff in highsec. and 20%, 30% is the yield difference between a failfit mack and a properly tanked Skiff.


i mean, you could trow 12 - 14 catalysts at it, but that will cost 80misk and has a VERY high chance of failing. and even if you do get a kill, the skiff is way too cheap. (120m fitted)

and no, don't go buy skiffs now, smarter people than you already bought the ones going for material cost.


Ice prices won't rise more than 30% because that's the yield difference between a mack and a skiff? That's some bizarre logic.

You do realize that:


  1. The skiff has a smaller cargohold and therefore requires a lot more warping in and out, which is why macks outnumber skiffs by far. Which means there will be less people mining since it requires more effort.
  2. Even if we disregard the first point and assume that all miners will be willing to switch to the skiff, will they be able. The New Order routinely hits miners for more than a billion ISK in ship and implants.
  3. The price of ice must also be affected by the demand for new ships, both for mining and ganking. Some manufactures produce in POSes, which require fuel blocks that require ice. This is an indirect rise in demand.


Now throw in the proud carebear motto of "WHAT HAPPEN!?" and massive speculative buying.

I don't know how high the prices will go but I'm pretty sure they aren't capped at 30% by some invisible hand.

http://crossingzebras.com/2013/02/17/csm8ripardteg/
Count of MonteCylon
Anti-Pirate Enforcement
#16 - 2013-01-14 05:00:33 UTC
So is this suicide ganking or are they somehow getting the miners to attack them?

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. -- Ephesians 6:12
Candy Oshea
Techfree Investment Group
#17 - 2013-01-14 05:03:37 UTC
Gilbert Intaki wrote:

But I am pretty sure I made a thread about plex Big smile


Fixed.

iCandy  - I have accidently swallowed some Scrabble tiles, my next shit could spell disaster!
Kara Books
Deal with IT.
#18 - 2013-01-14 05:09:44 UTC
GreenSeed wrote:
yet another new order killboard with only macks in it.... speaks volumes of the incredible levels of retardation among highsec miners.

oxy prices might go up a little, but they will never go up more than 30% over any long period of time. why? well, you cant gank or bump a 600ms/100k+ ehp skiff in highsec. and 20%, 30% is the yield difference between a failfit mack and a properly tanked Skiff.


i mean, you could trow 12 - 14 catalysts at it, but that will cost 80misk and has a VERY high chance of failing. and even if you do get a kill, the skiff is way too cheap. (120m fitted)

and no, don't go buy skiffs now, smarter people than you already bought the ones going for material cost.


I accept your compliment, thank you thank you.

P.S.
every miner has to have a backup barge ALWATS, and guess what its gotta be?
Candy Oshea
Techfree Investment Group
#19 - 2013-01-14 05:13:27 UTC
Kara Books wrote:

P.S.
every miner has to have a backup barge ALWATS, and guess what its gotta be?


Ill take retreiver for 200 alex

iCandy  - I have accidently swallowed some Scrabble tiles, my next shit could spell disaster!
Kara Books
Deal with IT.
#20 - 2013-01-14 05:28:39 UTC
retrievers are gangable, therefore having that as the backup ship could mean ending up begging for free stuff in channels.

the correct answer is not retreiver
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