Intergalactic Summit

No tangible claim other than 'We say so'.
Your insight is remarkable, captain Inhonores.

It's a hit dog that barks.

Continue to spout inaccurate aphorisms. The time you're using to do that is time you're not using to reclaim Caldari territory in Black Rise, which, by logical extension, is time you're not spending getting any closer to Federal territory. Regardless of my opinions on peace, the State Protectorate being far away from our holdings is objectively a good thing.

I should mention Desiderya that as a man who has gone to great lengths to extricate himself from Gallentian politics and as someone who has assisted the Caldari Navy many times in the past in dealing with legitimate threats to Caldari security, it is my estimation that you are coming across as the loser in your verbal clashes with Mr. Ixiris.

I would suggest that you disengage and allow someone with more tact and a firmer grasp on diplomacy take up the fight.

I do not think there is anyone sensible, on either side of the conflict, who approves of the current situation. So long as the state maintains a titan in Luminaire, this situation will only continue to escalate. The FDU has proven in this conflict that the Caldari Navy no longer enjoys the supremacy it once had, and if Heth does not choose to adopt a more diplomatic approach, I fear this will end as a tragedy for us all.

Luminaire is the home to both of our home worlds. It should be a peaceful place for trade and cultural exchange, not a war zone or monument to fear and genocide.

I actually have it on good authority from a credible source - that would be Allisa Audere, of the FDU - that the Federation has no intent to launch planetary occupations of the kind that the Caldari perpetrated on our planets when they occupied our systems, so what's actually happening here is that Black Rise is subject to more of a space-based interdiction. It would seem that the Federation learned from your mistakes, and doesn't intent to repeat them itself.

So you don't need to worry about the fate of your citizens.

In the new region you opened up.

Solely for the purpose of presenting another front in the war.

That you started.



Perhaps I'm tired.

Perhaps I'm tired of having my sincere efforts at peace laughed at and scorned by the people I'm trying to protect.

Perhaps I'm tired of having the people I do my best to advocate for spit in my face.

Perhaps I'm tired of having the CEP itself tell me that the political realities in the State make the people who want peace the most utterly powerless.

Or perhaps it was just that the nutrition pack I got today was lobster.

Perhaps I hate lobster.

Mr. Ixiris,

I humbly suggest you re-read known historical documents in regards to your accusation that the Caldari State relinquished rights over Caldari Prime after the treaty of Iyen-Oursta; This is factually incorrect, Caldari Prime was never ceded and only remained under Gallente control i.e. occupation.

To your main point: anyone with an neutral understanding of the conflict would recognize that the Caldari State in it infancy had no chance of humbling the Federation or landing a victory that would firmly put the Federation at the mercy of the States will. I realize and respect your obligation to your nation and military, but neither of those require historical ignorance.

The coercion you overlook comes in the form of hopeless continuation of war with no prospect of victory, and I'd be very pleased if you would show me proof to your accusation that the State and its corporations (KK as you named them specifically) were simply making nothing but profit off the conflict. While the Federation never anchored a Titan over Caldari Prime and threatened to liquidate the populace they made it clear that peace would not be achieved with the Caldari sitting firmly on the doorstep of their homeworld. It's very plainly stated in fact.

So lets be perfectly honest here. Caldari Prime, even had the Caldari won any real decisive victory, would have never been ceded with its proximity so close to Gallente Prime. Especially with the bad blood between our two people over the course of a bloody and unnecessary war. We've each done terrible things to each other and I doubt we will ever see eye to eye but denying our individual wrongs will never extinguish the fires of hatred between us, and neither will the out right belligerent behavior.

Aside from that, formal peace was never achieved and a ceasefire was instated. Our war never ended and Caldari Prime for all intensive purposes remained an occupied asset of the Caldari State, that is again unless you come up with any documents stating to the contrary.

Respectfully,

Simon Louvaki

Yes im sure whatever they tell you in the federation is of the utmost accuracy. Do be as so kind to enlighten me then on my innacuracy (sources would be most prudent) and it wouldnt hurt to be a bit more suferable. Its most unatractive when you answer eveything with a snide.

and its unfortunate you feel that way, but I was being sincere despite your tactless assumptions to the contray. If your incapable or unwilling of polite and respectful discussion I'll happily withdraw, but lets not live in a fantasy world where the Federation is unresponsible for its own machinations.

Perhapse you should do the same, given it simply reiterates the links i posted and maintains that Caldari Prime remained under Gallente CONTROL, but then theirs nothing about the State relinquishing claims to the planet itself. Return was inevitable and remained a core goal for future generations. If your Federation was taken aback by a resuming of hostilities then its their own fault for being unprepared for the inevitable, which no in the State tried to hide.

I assume you have something more substantial correct? and really, theres no need to be rude.

I hadn't read that document before; thank you for supplying it. I will have to consider it before publicly changing position, but it's given me something to think about.

And, Mr. Ixiris. You are getting upset, and slinging around phrases that support you but are either meaningless or incorrect. Insanity is, generally, predictable. That's why we can categorize, diagnose and assist in treating it.

Surely you can't expect any of us to be happy about recent events, or to retreat in silence. Calmness, sir. The peace you desire will not be found on this battlefield. It will be formed on another.