Warfare & Tactics

Everyone without an OGB are as you say: " to useless and lasy to invest in they own OGB toon".

Indeed sir, you found the problem.

Well "harder" imho is an understatement, "close to impossible" is more like it.

To scan down T3 fitted for counter-scanning you need a perfect scanning skills char with full Virtue set (2bil) and +10 astronometric hardwirings, and then that guy has to get a .5 lock on top of the booster. Now to get such close lock you'll need at least three passes (and I'm being generous here) if you do system-wide scans or two if you use d-scan to get closer. Either case that's anywhere form 15 seconds to one minute of combat probes being out which is more then enough for anyone paying attention to cloak up. Yes it can be done, but it requires a major f***up by whomever is flying booster.

I'll lol ahead at the obvious troll with "l2p, d-scan your way to close on prober" comment as d-scanning usually involves several additional minutes of warping and bm-ing around during which the fights usually end and the gang moves on/booster cloaks up.

So, in short - T3 boosting is indeed horribly broken atm, there is no reasonable counter to it and it should be dealt with. My suggestion would be for command processors to bloom the size of the ship by 100-150m so it reaches size scannable by your average lvl4-probing skills char. As for OGB boosting in general, I'm not so much against it as long as the ship providing bonuses can be found and engaged (hence, no POS combat boosting either, I'd leave industrial boosts alone though) . Plus I'd give boosting ship weapons flag when it engages its links, so that station/gate hugging and docking/jumping boosters on first sight of trouble becomes impossible. Finally,, if fleet engages targets neutral to booster char a suspect flag would be nice too (I'm guessing this shouldn't be too hard to implement code-wise).

Do you even lift?

exactly ROFL .... return of the nanoage .... 12kms vagas or 20km drams ..... pvp without boosters will be impossible (so everyone will get the alt) . first step of the fight will be to spread around the grid and try to decloak the booster.

OGB was on of CCP's biggest mistakes I'm now waiting for the XXXXL Titan that requires 10 Alt's in it, can only engage warp once every 2 weeks, but that won't be a problem since it's going to spend 99.9999999% of its time in a POS wondering WTF happened?

just turn active links into pos modules - and take the active link skills into the corp training q

give CS and T3 passive on grid links and an extra highslot for the modules only to sweeten the deal - being passive allows them into the fight and able to run other modules i.e. shields webs scrams ..

the rest ... i dunno

although i am old school and use boosting a lot ... i am starting to think that the massive boosts able to be given by a ship hidden 70au away is a little wrong

o/

You can always give up, join a big corp and be the 27th irrelevant little noobie on the killmails when one of the players with 6 accounts lose a ship.

Translation: You can always work with others to achieve your goals more easily, and gain some friends and socialize at the same time, too.

Eve is not made to be a solo game -- particularly not in PvP. There is no development effort afforded to solo "balance"; almost everything is made with groups of people in mind. You are supposed to work with others, or be at a severe disadvantage. That disadvantage can be mitigated if you play with yourself by paying for a zillion alts (like Cynthia does).

There are 3 paths to PvP:

1. "True" solo, using only one account, and one character. This is fairly rare, due to its success rates being low. Very difficult, but not impossible.
2. "Solo", using multiple accounts/characters, but not usually directly collaborating with others. This is pretty common, particularly in areas where "true" solo PvPers may be found (due to the advantage it confers). Most pro~ PvPers fall into this category.
3. "Gang", using multiple people, possibly with multiple accounts (but not usually due to limited multitasking attention span). This is most common, and can be subdivided into "small gang", "large gang", "fleet", "sov warfare", "blob", etc., depending on various factors like the composition/size of the fleet, experience of the members, location where it is happening, and intended targets.

To be noted is that, while the setup of some fleets does diminish the role of the individual via excessive restrictions (discipline, selective ship choice, fleet commander anal-retentiveness), fleets managed correctly have no "irrelevant" members -- regardless of age or ship.

anyone who thinks offgrid boosting is "fine" and can be probed is not being serious... a t3 boosting alt flying aligned to a pos can be eventually probed, but a 20 sec warp is more than enough to relocate the alt, not to mention the ONLY thing that should be fitted in lows are stabs.

same with any other booster, align and warp as son as someone lands.

off grid boosting has to go, either make boosting on grid with a 150km - 200km range, or remove it and replace it with a more up close linking system with proper modifiers.

People are arguing that because it helps gangs survive against blobs off-grid boosting should stay. This is a fallacy.
Just because a broken mechanic helps people to fight against unfavourable odds doesn't mean it should stick around.
The correct way to go about it is to remove the broken mechanic and then look at what could be done to make sure small gangs remain viable.