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New Players: Joining an Alliance

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Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#61 - 2013-01-13 11:22:34 UTC
Larger groups tend to be more bureaucratic then small ones and contain more anti-social people, no surprise there. Im seeing no difference from this drama and the BS you get in IRL large organizations. It also doesn't surprise me large nullsec Alliances have more people being worked up over more subjects, as neglecting those will see them lose their stuff. And yours too. I can relate to your post and your opinion, but that being said I can also respect other people's choice to play like a soldier or like a general. That's the cool thing about EvE. Plenty of options, especially if you want to downscale from a large nullsec Alliance.
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#62 - 2013-01-13 15:08:18 UTC
+1 for the OP.

With miner bumping threads getting locked faster than you can say "oops", Max Doobie does not disappoint Lol.

Remove standings and insurance.

Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#63 - 2013-01-13 19:15:23 UTC
Duries Kain wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Max Doobie wrote:
Zack Korth wrote:
tl;dr= test sucks



lol, not at all. I'm simply saying that players shouldn't judge by size alone.

...at least not in regards to EVE....
...in your dating life...perhaps...

Confirming that in dating bigger is better.


if this is related to a purse, then true.

I think it's an effort thing actually. Bigger is just so much easier to get into, and usually cheaper. Shocked


Seriously though.
A large corporation can be daunting to "get into". Sometimes it can be hard to find a place amount thousands.

I tihnk the OP is giving some sound advice.
Thinking that joining a large group is the way to go could lead to an unpleasant experience if you aren't really aware of what you're getting into.

It didn't really dawn on me when I joined Goonwaffe. I ran a 200 man guild in another game, I didn't really think much of anything other than it'll be nice not to have to directly deal with people.

And if you really want to be a significant part of something, you're not doing it in a large group like goons or test to be honest. You're better off in a smaller group where you have more direct contact with the higher ups and less established hierarchy and cliques.

Being a member of such a large group isn't for everyone, and is not always the best way to go.
Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#64 - 2013-01-13 19:39:35 UTC
Good thing about larger corps is that if you have too much RL to spend all your day in EVE, there are still always enough people online to get stuff done when you log in.
Nothing against small and tightly knit corps, but they are of no use if only two or three pilots are online at any given time and usually 30 jumps apart...

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.

Celly S
Neutin Local LLC
#65 - 2013-01-13 20:14:17 UTC
+1 to OP

you're better off starting in a small corp or alliance where people can get to know you and you them, then you'll actually have folks who can and will help you without you being just another face in the crowd, you can talk and read before the screen scrolls the information out of your buffer, you can work closely with a small group and learn from that.

I don't advocate going it alone in EvE when you first start out, instead i think getting in with a smaller group is the very best way until you get on some solid footing of your own.


o/
Celly



Don't mistake fact for arrogance, supposition for fact, or disagreement for dismissal. Perception is unique in that it can be shared or singular. Run with the pack if you wish, but think for yourself. A sandwich can be a great motivator.

Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#66 - 2013-01-13 21:16:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Varius Xeral
Celly Smunt wrote:
you're better off starting in a small corp or alliance where people can get to know you and you them, then you'll actually have folks who can and will help you without you being just another face in the crowd, you can talk and read before the screen scrolls the information out of your buffer, you can work closely with a small group and learn from that.

I don't advocate going it alone in EvE when you first start out, instead i think getting in with a smaller group is the very best way until you get on some solid footing of your own.


I'd phrase that differently. I'd say that no matter where you are, it's the small relationships that count. Whether that's one small group of friends or the few people you know from multiple groups, it's these personal connections that last, and it's ultimately these people that you share your game experience with, whatever that particular experience may be.

Playing in a large group or small group is just a different playstyle, that is all. Friends and playstyles are ultimately distinct things, though they of course overlap in may ways.

Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal

bongsmoke
Visine Red
420 Chronicles of EvE
#67 - 2013-01-14 03:13:45 UTC
Anyone can create a corp and 100 trial toons to join and look big and bad.....doesnt mean squat. Smaller corps (under 20) are the way to go, just do research if the corps been established and wary if just founded with a lot of players.

Common sense goes a long way.

If you ever joined some of the big corps like Goons, nobody would EVER want you if you left or got booted, in fear that your just gonna **** them eventually. just 1 of many bad/horrible big corps, not the only one.
Alekksander Geinesa
Divine Mortals
#68 - 2013-04-11 16:49:08 UTC
Arkon Olacar wrote:
Max Doobie wrote:
You get trashed on forums for simply having an unpopular opinion, no matter how respectful you are. You get trampled by the stampede of brown nosers and ass kissers who are so focused on fitting in with the "KEWL KIDZ" they are willing to say and do anything it takes to be with the "in" crowd in that corp/alliance. People like myself who are NOT followers and speak for themselves will have a difficult time in this sort of environment. In fact this very thread may cst me my membership even though I stated clearly that I am not refering to any particular corp/alliance but hey...Just the way it is. I'm my own man and I speak my mind.

Literally Gevlon Goblin



What ever you do just DO NOT join tribal, they will scam you and everyone else... they use rules, and politics to mask their scams but they are just scams!
Burseg Sardaukar
Free State Project
#69 - 2013-04-11 17:00:21 UTC
Max Doobie wrote:
Some of the BEST corps out there have less than 100 folks. Everyone knows each other. There's no stress or bureaucratic BS. It's all about having some fun with cool folks.


I try to make it a point to know all my people. It's hard if they don't put forth the effort to come on comms and participate in any meaningful way. There's a truth in my Alliance that if you aren't getting your balls busted, its probably because no one knows you well enough, and that's actually a bad thing.

Can't wait to dual box my Dust toon and EVE toon on the same machine!

flakeys
Doomheim
#70 - 2013-04-11 17:04:40 UTC
Alekksander Geinesa wrote:
Arkon Olacar wrote:
Max Doobie wrote:
You get trashed on forums for simply having an unpopular opinion, no matter how respectful you are. You get trampled by the stampede of brown nosers and ass kissers who are so focused on fitting in with the "KEWL KIDZ" they are willing to say and do anything it takes to be with the "in" crowd in that corp/alliance. People like myself who are NOT followers and speak for themselves will have a difficult time in this sort of environment. In fact this very thread may cst me my membership even though I stated clearly that I am not refering to any particular corp/alliance but hey...Just the way it is. I'm my own man and I speak my mind.

Literally Gevlon Goblin



What ever you do just DO NOT join tribal, they will scam you and everyone else... they use rules, and politics to mask their scams but they are just scams!



3 month old NECRO to say this ?


Man , someone must've really grabbed your balls and twisted them around ....

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

Alekksander Geinesa
Divine Mortals
#71 - 2013-04-11 17:12:18 UTC
flakeys wrote:
Alekksander Geinesa wrote:
Arkon Olacar wrote:
Max Doobie wrote:
You get trashed on forums for simply having an unpopular opinion, no matter how respectful you are. You get trampled by the stampede of brown nosers and ass kissers who are so focused on fitting in with the "KEWL KIDZ" they are willing to say and do anything it takes to be with the "in" crowd in that corp/alliance. People like myself who are NOT followers and speak for themselves will have a difficult time in this sort of environment. In fact this very thread may cst me my membership even though I stated clearly that I am not refering to any particular corp/alliance but hey...Just the way it is. I'm my own man and I speak my mind.

Literally Gevlon Goblin



What ever you do just DO NOT join tribal, they will scam you and everyone else... they use rules, and politics to mask their scams but they are just scams!



3 month old NECRO to say this ?


Man , someone must've really grabbed your balls and twisted them around ....



Says the alt...
flakeys
Doomheim
#72 - 2013-04-11 17:23:56 UTC
Alekksander Geinesa wrote:
flakeys wrote:
Alekksander Geinesa wrote:
Arkon Olacar wrote:
Max Doobie wrote:
You get trashed on forums for simply having an unpopular opinion, no matter how respectful you are. You get trampled by the stampede of brown nosers and ass kissers who are so focused on fitting in with the "KEWL KIDZ" they are willing to say and do anything it takes to be with the "in" crowd in that corp/alliance. People like myself who are NOT followers and speak for themselves will have a difficult time in this sort of environment. In fact this very thread may cst me my membership even though I stated clearly that I am not refering to any particular corp/alliance but hey...Just the way it is. I'm my own man and I speak my mind.

Literally Gevlon Goblin



What ever you do just DO NOT join tribal, they will scam you and everyone else... they use rules, and politics to mask their scams but they are just scams!



3 month old NECRO to say this ?


Man , someone must've really grabbed your balls and twisted them around ....



Says the alt...


Uhm , yeah i'm the leader of my corp , of my alliance , am playing since 9+ years and do everything with this character.

Besides being butthurt you seem a bit brainless too ....

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

Dave Stark
#73 - 2013-04-11 17:26:22 UTC
Alekksander Geinesa wrote:
Says the alt...


the man has a point.

you revived a terrible 3 month old thread, for seemingly no reason. honestly, who pissed in your corn flakes?
flakeys
Doomheim
#74 - 2013-04-11 17:28:26 UTC  |  Edited by: flakeys
Dave Stark wrote:
Alekksander Geinesa wrote:
Says the alt...


the man has a point.

you revived a terrible 3 month old thread, for seemingly no reason. honestly, who pissed in your corn flakes?



actually it's flakeYs .... it used to be flakes till this char got a small visit to the god's .Gotta love CCP sympathy at reviving dead chars Blink

Ow looky looky here , seems alekksander is RRRRRRRRRRRRreally pissed off : have a look here

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

Dave Stark
#75 - 2013-04-11 17:37:18 UTC
flakeys wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
Alekksander Geinesa wrote:
Says the alt...


the man has a point.

you revived a terrible 3 month old thread, for seemingly no reason. honestly, who pissed in your corn flakes?



actually it's flakeYs .... it used to be flakes till this char got a small visit to the god's .Gotta love CCP sympathy at reviving dead chars Blink

Ow looky looky here , seems alekksander is RRRRRRRRRRRRreally pissed off : have a look here


oh, he mad.
flakeys
Doomheim
#76 - 2013-04-11 17:51:49 UTC
Gosh and now i am getting an application from a total unknown to the corp claiming to be one of my boys.


Yet he's not one of my boys because i know my boys .... coincidence or is the butthurt uberstrong here ?

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#77 - 2013-04-11 19:31:16 UTC
flakeys wrote:
Gosh and now i am getting an application from a total unknown to the corp claiming to be one of my boys.


Yet he's not one of my boys because i know my boys .... coincidence or is the butthurt uberstrong here ?



You should accept him so that he can kill all your freighter be a totally good corpmate not up to anything sneaky.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon

flakeys
Doomheim
#78 - 2013-04-11 19:34:51 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
flakeys wrote:
Gosh and now i am getting an application from a total unknown to the corp claiming to be one of my boys.


Yet he's not one of my boys because i know my boys .... coincidence or is the butthurt uberstrong here ?



You should accept him so that he can kill all your freighter be a totally good corpmate not up to anything sneaky.



What a great idea , i love making new friends anyway ..... Lol

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.