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There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING you can do...

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Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#1 - 2013-01-13 05:17:18 UTC
As several well-informed miners have astutely asserted, there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING you can do to defend yourselves against the attacks of the New Order. (The caps emphasize the certainty.) The very mechanics of the game are constructed in a way that puts you at a disadvantage and prevents you from having any hope of fighting back or preventing a gank. If you're in highsec and the New Order wants you dead, you're dead, end of story. It is time for highsec miners to start accepting these facts and acting accordingly, buy a permit, it is LITERALLY THE ONLY OPTION YOU HAVE, other than stop mining in highsec, or of course martyr you mining ship.

People will say "Vote with your wallet" and "CCP only understands subscription numbers" so go right ahead, unsub, see how that works out for you. I'm sure you will be dearly missed and it will kill EVE. Oh wait, numbers say stuff like the New Order actually boosts subscriptions... Oh shucks, and the subscriptions gained turn out to be people who actually love EVE for what it is, which makes for loyal customers... Oh well, so much for your ~unsub~ PVP technique. Guess you took the quitter's way out and didn't even see any results. To me, it seems a lot easier to just buy a permit, but whatever...

In conclusion, 3 options. Buy a permit (Recommended), don't mine in highsec (either do something else or unsub), or die horribly. No other options, no hope.

Highsec is owned by players now. Systems 0.5-1.0 are New Order Territory. All miners and other residents of Highsec must obey The Code. Mining without a permit is dangerous and harmful to the EVE community. See www.MinerBumping.com
Jason McCoy
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-01-13 05:19:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Jason McCoy
LOL! where are all of you coming up? you cant police all of high sec, I will mine where ever I feel like and you and your entire corp or alliance cant do didly squat against that! Lol

oh and btw I will wipe my nose with your permit and hand it over, will that suffice? LOLGANKERWANNABEES
Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-01-13 05:21:30 UTC
Galaxy Pig posts are some of my favorite.

CCP has no sense of humour.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#4 - 2013-01-13 05:22:43 UTC
I don't get it, was there another "rebellion" ?

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#5 - 2013-01-13 05:24:59 UTC
To date, there has been no real rebellion to speak of.

Highsec is owned by players now. Systems 0.5-1.0 are New Order Territory. All miners and other residents of Highsec must obey The Code. Mining without a permit is dangerous and harmful to the EVE community. See www.MinerBumping.com
Cyprus Black
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-01-13 05:29:21 UTC
Fit prop mod.
Select asteroid.
Orbit asteroid.

This "new order" nonsense has been thwarted.

Summary of EvEs last four expansions: http://imgur.com/ZL5SM33
Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#7 - 2013-01-13 05:31:04 UTC
Posting experts are calling this a "troll thread".

Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal
stoicfaux
#8 - 2013-01-13 05:36:06 UTC
Galaxy Pig wrote:

People will say "Vote with your wallet" and "CCP only understands subscription numbers" so go right ahead, unsub, see how that works out for you. I'm sure you will be dearly missed and it will kill EVE. Oh wait, numbers say stuff like the New Order actually boosts subscriptions... Oh shucks, and the subscriptions gained turn out to be people who actually love EVE for what it is, which makes for loyal customers... Oh well, so much for your ~unsub~ PVP technique. Guess you took the quitter's way out and didn't even see any results. To me, it seems a lot easier to just buy a permit, but whatever...


So if I'm reading between the lines correctly (or incorrectly, it's all the same) then the "New Order" is worried about catching grief from CCP over sub losses due to the "New Order" harassment emergent gameplay of miners, so the OP is trying to dissuade miners from feeling "dis-emergent" enough to unsub?

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
ACE McFACE
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#9 - 2013-01-13 05:36:30 UTC
Who cares

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#10 - 2013-01-13 05:37:47 UTC
Galaxy Pig wrote:
As several well-informed miners have astutely asserted, there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING you can do to defend yourselves against the attacks of the New Order.


Well, that's a big lie.

Mr Epeen Cool
Toshiroma McDiesel
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2013-01-13 05:40:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Toshiroma McDiesel
*checks last several pages of GD and scratches head* you do protest too much?

Not seeing anyone complaining about New Order. No one mention miner ganking this whole day?

All real miners know that you will be ganked every now and again. It's part of the job. You factor that in that you might lose a ship everynow and again....*gasp! just like PVP players do!* Do you go max tank or max yield? It's a roll of the dice. I prefer max yield, with Orca support. The chances of me being ganked are so minimal that max yield wins everytime.

But.....if you get that itch, lots of unknowns in local, some such, I switch to tank. You play the odds as best you can.

And true miners know , if they really want your ship exploded, there isn't really much you can do other than don't undock.

(last 2 hulkageaddons I mined HI-SEC in a hulk, full on, no loses, mining permits are for chumps, and don't mean crap in the end if the ganker "Really wants your ship Exploded" Pirate )

EDIT : TL:DR : OP sounds like the Tin Foil Hat guy shouting " THEY BE COMMIN FOR YA!!! BUY MY HAT! IT"S THE ONLY WAY TO STOP THEM THERE COMMIE ALIEN MIND-BUTT PROBERS FROM GETTIN TO YA"

I"m not really the Evil One, I'm just his answering service.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-01-13 05:42:35 UTC
Jason McCoy wrote:
LOL! where are all of you coming up? you cant police all of high sec, I will mine where ever I feel like and you and your entire corp or alliance cant do didly squat against that! Lol

oh and btw I will wipe my nose with your permit and hand it over, will that suffice? LOLGANKERWANNABEES


so you didn't actually get it

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Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2013-01-13 05:49:57 UTC
Cyprus Black wrote:
Fit prop mod.
Select asteroid.
Orbit asteroid.

This "new order" nonsense has been thwarted.

IIRC the Skiff is the only exhumer you can realistically fit prop on, and many miners refuse to change their ship or click an extra button because SANDBOX MEANS YOU CAN'T MAKE ME CHANGE MY PLAYSTYLE THIS IS EXTORTION.

Besides that, orbiting isn't very helpful against a dozen Catalysts.
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#14 - 2013-01-13 05:57:31 UTC
Looked at OPs company name and instantly realized that nothing I would read to the right of it would be nothing other than pure, grade-A unfiltered bullshit from a sad little person with delusions of grandeur.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0
Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#15 - 2013-01-13 06:00:40 UTC
This belongs in the fan-fiction section of the forums.

That sums up my thoughts on the post.
ACE McFACE
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#16 - 2013-01-13 06:02:27 UTC
Toshiroma McDiesel wrote:
*checks last several pages of GD and scratches head* you do protest too much?

Not seeing anyone complaining about New Order. No one mention miner ganking this whole day?

All real miners know that you will be ganked every now and again. It's part of the job. You factor that in that you might lose a ship everynow and again....*gasp! just like PVP players do!* Do you go max tank or max yield? It's a roll of the dice. I prefer max yield, with Orca support. The chances of me being ganked are so minimal that max yield wins everytime.

But.....if you get that itch, lots of unknowns in local, some such, I switch to tank. You play the odds as best you can.

And true miners know , if they really want your ship exploded, there isn't really much you can do other than don't undock.

(last 2 hulkageaddons I mined HI-SEC in a hulk, full on, no loses, mining permits are for chumps, and don't mean crap in the end if the ganker "Really wants your ship Exploded" Pirate )

EDIT : TL:DR : OP sounds like the Tin Foil Hat guy shouting " THEY BE COMMIN FOR YA!!! BUY MY HAT! IT"S THE ONLY WAY TO STOP THEM THERE COMMIE ALIEN MIND-BUTT PROBERS FROM GETTIN TO YA"

OP is actually complaining about the lack of attention the New Order has been getting recently due to the fact that no one cares what some people to scared to actually gank miners do.

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.
Zin Zum
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2013-01-13 06:06:48 UTC
Galaxy Pig wrote:
As several well-informed miners have astutely asserted, there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING you can do to defend yourselves against the attacks of the New Order. (The caps emphasize the certainty.) The very mechanics of the game are constructed in a way that puts you at a disadvantage and prevents you from having any hope of fighting back or preventing a gank. If you're in highsec and the New Order wants you dead, you're dead, end of story. It is time for highsec miners to start accepting these facts and acting accordingly, buy a permit, it is LITERALLY THE ONLY OPTION YOU HAVE, other than stop mining in highsec, or of course martyr you mining ship.

People will say "Vote with your wallet" and "CCP only understands subscription numbers" so go right ahead, unsub, see how that works out for you. I'm sure you will be dearly missed and it will kill EVE. Oh wait, numbers say stuff like the New Order actually boosts subscriptions... Oh shucks, and the subscriptions gained turn out to be people who actually love EVE for what it is, which makes for loyal customers... Oh well, so much for your ~unsub~ PVP technique. Guess you took the quitter's way out and didn't even see any results. To me, it seems a lot easier to just buy a permit, but whatever...

In conclusion, 3 options. Buy a permit (Recommended), don't mine in highsec (either do something else or unsub), or die horribly. No other options, no hope.


LOL Galaxy Pig. You have been in that order of 27 pilots for a short amount of time. Do you really think people fear you and your New Order? I will see you out there, friend. 07

-ZZ
Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#18 - 2013-01-13 06:10:33 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:
Galaxy Pig wrote:

People will say "Vote with your wallet" and "CCP only understands subscription numbers" so go right ahead, unsub, see how that works out for you. I'm sure you will be dearly missed and it will kill EVE. Oh wait, numbers say stuff like the New Order actually boosts subscriptions... Oh shucks, and the subscriptions gained turn out to be people who actually love EVE for what it is, which makes for loyal customers... Oh well, so much for your ~unsub~ PVP technique. Guess you took the quitter's way out and didn't even see any results. To me, it seems a lot easier to just buy a permit, but whatever...


So if I'm reading between the lines correctly (or incorrectly, it's all the same) then the "New Order" is worried about catching grief from CCP over sub losses due to the "New Order" harassment emergent gameplay of miners, so the OP is trying to dissuade miners from feeling "dis-emergent" enough to unsub?



I do not speak for the entirety of the New Order. In general, I try to encourage people to try EVE and dissuade them from leaving. The only people I would encourage to unsub are people who don't really like EVE anyway.

Highsec is owned by players now. Systems 0.5-1.0 are New Order Territory. All miners and other residents of Highsec must obey The Code. Mining without a permit is dangerous and harmful to the EVE community. See www.MinerBumping.com
Kameria
Mellie Bear Industries
#19 - 2013-01-13 06:11:25 UTC
I heard attempting to gank them in faction/officer fit faction BS and letting them loot the wreck afterwards makes them go away. Try it sometime.
Toshiroma McDiesel
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2013-01-13 06:12:37 UTC
ACE McFACE wrote:

OP is actually complaining about the lack of attention the New Order has been getting recently due to the fact that no one cares what some people to scared to actually gank miners do.



Yeah, kinda why I edited in the tl:dr part,lol really? are they getting that hard up for money? maybe they should start mining, I hear it's more uber ISK than even incursions! Pirate

I"m not really the Evil One, I'm just his answering service.
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