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Gallente Strategy for Total Warzone Domination Revealed

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ALUCARD 1208
Did he say Jump
Dock Workers
#21 - 2013-01-12 20:27:55 UTC
u caldari guys are idiots u had just as many gunless frigs plexing for ur tier5s so dont kid urself the same farmers flip flopping between malitias and as for the amarrian piping up u guys did same with nulli so humm boot hurts wen its on other foot?
SAJUK NIGARRA
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2013-01-12 20:40:33 UTC
Mutnin wrote:
Deacon Abox wrote:
Are you guys daft or what? I have not seen stabbed Incurses. But I do not doubt that there are gal farmer alts that fly such abominations.

But what you fail to understand is that you have your own farmer alt hordes. I do have personal experience with herds of stabbed condor and merlin alts and with the last patch the wonderful squid venture alts that attempt to peacefully graze in the now monoculture but abundant field of gallente controlled space filled with sites containing a lone cross of red with a gallente affiliation. Show us your empirical data about an imbalance of actual in-game farming alts or stfu. Then also explain how that imbalance actually took Squid base home systems in the warzone like Raka, Okka, Eha, OMS, and Lad.


You never had to deal with both Caldari & Amarr farmer alts like we had to deal with both Gal & Min. There was one point it was so bad I couldn't even enter a system with out seeing either a Gal or Min farmer alt in some gun-less abortion of a ship. This is what stopped Caldari from defending systems months ago.

You guys want to look at the current events as to why things flipped over so badly, but the damage was done months ago, when we were simply bored to tears of chasing gun-less stabbed frigs out over every open plex on the map. Add to that no real fleet fights and people just got bored and stopped logging in or went off to do other things.



I'll ruin the thread and give a serious answer. I can fully imagine that when we had tier 4 or later in the year tier V, there were swarms of farmers in stabbed frigs. You'll have to belive me that we were running in to absolutely the same (including amarr alts) when you guys had high tier.

However, the differences start here. We had the FCs capable to provide our members with non FW related content (be it fighting snuff or going on roadtrips to ruin some nullbears week) . Therfore the impact of not beeing able to find fights in plexes was minimal for us. It's boring in Black Rise ? Let's go on a roadtrip to the outskirts of Geminate, or to Metropolis. And by beeing able to provide our pilots with content,we managed to keep them around.

A second difference is that our groups are much better glued together. Even if we do go trough a dry spell for a month or two, our guys won't leave, they will stick it trough, because they like the group they are flying with.

If your duders abandoned ship because a few months of not finding fights in plexes, maybe you should've recruited more loyal ones.
Mutnin
SQUIDS.
#23 - 2013-01-12 21:01:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Mutnin
SAJUK NIGARRA wrote:


I'll ruin the thread and give a serious answer. I can fully imagine that when we had tier 4 or later in the year tier V, there were swarms of farmers in stabbed frigs. You'll have to belive me that we were running in to absolutely the same (including amarr alts) when you guys had high tier.

However, the differences start here. We had the FCs capable to provide our members with non FW related content (be it fighting snuff or going on roadtrips to ruin some nullbears week) . Therfore the impact of not beeing able to find fights in plexes was minimal for us. It's boring in Black Rise ? Let's go on a roadtrip to the outskirts of Geminate, or to Metropolis. And by beeing able to provide our pilots with content,we managed to keep them around.

A second difference is that our groups are much better glued together. Even if we do go trough a dry spell for a month or two, our guys won't leave, they will stick it trough, because they like the group they are flying with.

If your duders abandoned ship because a few months of not finding fights in plexes, maybe you should've recruited more loyal ones.


No one really fought in the plexes in any sort of large scale fighting prior to just before the station locks outs. Up until then plexing was just for bragging rights & small gang/solo. (small gang usually meaning just 2 or 3 guys vs 2 or 3)

I was talking about my experience every since I've joined Caldari. I'm not talking about plexing or who can farm the most I'm talking about the old school fights we used to have with large gangs facing off that weren't a bunch of frigs and destroyers.

I've seen two maybe three times since I've been on this side of the war that Caldari was capable of running what I considered solid fleets with BC's and up. The biggest problem is not so much getting the guys in those fleets, but more so keeping competent FC's whom can run them.

This is where the Gal snore-fest took it's toll. I can't tell you how many times you guys would be out rolling around in your usual 20+ gang and Caldari would jump into our BC's to come have a fight. I can't think of very many times that this didn't result in us chasing Gals all the way back to Heyidlies where we would always have to wait 20mins to an hour for you guys to "reship" and "undock" which then usually resorted in who jumps into whom arguments our our guys being bored logging out.

People that want to PVP simply get bored of that and after some time move on. I didn't even run fleets out side of my own corp but even in our corp gangs lack of real fights out of Gals made me not interested in fighting you guys. It was always entire blobs or nothing, never any actual GF's.

As far as non FW content.. I personally realized this with my corp and as result most of the time we took gangs out, we weren't hunting FW targets but either pies or going to null sec. We mostly ran gangs right in the middle of US TZ and there wasn't any way for us as a corp to compete with your numbers, so we almost always headed out to null sec or fought local pies.

If we took fleets out to kill Gals then it was usually just gank fleets to do running gate camps but after awhile that gets pretty boring, when you are trying to get actual fights not just whore a bunch of KM's.

It came to a point that either we would just leave FW all together to find decent PVP, or stay and get bored. TBH, should of left then when the corp was pretty active and we were right on the edge of having pretty solid nanno gangs, but we had already seen several large Caldari corps come & go and Caldari was on a upswing at that point and I didn't want to take pilots away.

So we stayed, I got bored of the status quo & I've seen the same happen with several other FC's on Caldari's side. Yes Caldari has it's problems, but lack of decent fighting content out of Gals also tended to take it's toll. When corps like Draketrain leave because they can't get you guys to fight them corps like 4 Horsemen have their active FC's get bored and stop logging in, well it kinda tells a story don't yea think?
Cromwell Savage
The Screaming Seagulls
#24 - 2013-01-12 23:05:30 UTC
Cladari standard battle cry....and I do mean cry...


"Damn you gallente and all your plex farmer alts!!!!"

"What was that? We still have more VP...daily and weekly...than the gallente do?"

"Well...Gallente still suck because they would always run away from us, dock up and never fight!!!!!"

"What was that? They still have more FW kills than we do?"

"F*** this! CCP must be helping the Gallente! I'm docking up and coming to the forums......."

Lol
Mutnin
SQUIDS.
#25 - 2013-01-12 23:09:34 UTC
Cromwell Savage wrote:
Cladari standard battle cry....and I do mean cry...


"Damn you gallente and all your plex farmer alts!!!!"

"What was that? We still have more VP...daily and weekly...than the gallente do?"

"Well...Gallente still suck because they would always run away from us, dock up and never fight!!!!!"

"What was that? They still have more FW kills than we do?"

"F*** this! CCP must be helping the Gallente! I'm docking up and coming to the forums......."

Lol



Standard Gal battle cry.. HALP.. HALP.. I have a frig tackled I need 15 guys to assist..
Mra Rednu
Totally Into Spaceships
#26 - 2013-01-12 23:11:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Mra Rednu
ALUCARD 1208 wrote:
u caldari guys are idiots u had just as many gunless frigs plexing for ur tier5s so dont kid urself the same farmers flip flopping between malitias and as for the amarrian piping up u guys did same with nulli so humm boot hurts wen its on other foot?


You really are a dumb **** aren't you or is it those stupid glasses making you blind.
Cromwell Savage
The Screaming Seagulls
#27 - 2013-01-12 23:20:03 UTC
Mutnin wrote:


Standard Gal battle cry.. HALP.. HALP.. I have a frig tackled I need 15 guys to assist..



LMAO!!!

Yes - confirming I have never been forced out of a plex while solo in a dessie against multiple squids who not only brought way more than just 2 or 3 to fight 1 (which I have still fought based on specific ship types), but loki boosts and EWAR....


LOL....I shoulda bought stock in Tampax before we took Ladister....... P
Mutnin
SQUIDS.
#28 - 2013-01-12 23:38:47 UTC
Cromwell Savage wrote:
Mutnin wrote:


Standard Gal battle cry.. HALP.. HALP.. I have a frig tackled I need 15 guys to assist..



LMAO!!!

Yes - confirming I have never been forced out of a plex while solo in a dessie against multiple squids who not only brought way more than just 2 or 3 to fight 1 (which I have still fought based on specific ship types), but loki boosts and EWAR....


LOL....I shoulda bought stock in Tampax before we took Ladister....... P


I was looking at your kills last month.. I just wanted to congratulate you on managing to get 5 whole solo kills, out of the 240 kills you got. I realize killing those Condors were likely tough fights and pushed you to your limits, but that cloaky transport, must have been an outstanding battle.

Props to a true Galentte Gladiator.. You must be a hero among heros with-in the Gal Militia for this outstanding accomplishment. You should get a medal!
Andre Vauban
Aideron Robotics
#29 - 2013-01-12 23:56:17 UTC
Mutnin wrote:
Cromwell Savage wrote:
Mutnin wrote:


Standard Gal battle cry.. HALP.. HALP.. I have a frig tackled I need 15 guys to assist..



LMAO!!!

Yes - confirming I have never been forced out of a plex while solo in a dessie against multiple squids who not only brought way more than just 2 or 3 to fight 1 (which I have still fought based on specific ship types), but loki boosts and EWAR....


LOL....I shoulda bought stock in Tampax before we took Ladister....... P


I was looking at your kills last month.. I just wanted to congratulate you on managing to get 5 whole solo kills, out of the 240 kills you got. I realize killing those Condors were likely tough fights and pushed you to your limits, but that cloaky transport, must have been an outstanding battle.

Props to a true Galentte Gladiator.. You must be a hero among heros with-in the Gal Militia for this outstanding accomplishment. You should get a medal!


You whine more than my two year old. You continue to blame everything you can for your lack of fun besides the true root cause. I really think for you own mental health it's time to stop playing any sort of competitive game or sport. This is just a game, if you aren't having fun don't play it.

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ALUCARD 1208
Did he say Jump
Dock Workers
#30 - 2013-01-12 23:56:35 UTC  |  Edited by: ALUCARD 1208
Mra Rednu wrote:
ALUCARD 1208 wrote:
u caldari guys are idiots u had just as many gunless frigs plexing for ur tier5s so dont kid urself the same farmers flip flopping between malitias and as for the amarrian piping up u guys did same with nulli so humm boot hurts wen its on other foot?


You really are a dumb **** aren't you or is it those stupid glasses making you blind.



i was in that warzone at the time of farmville mate i know u had all the systems ready for t5 but nulli went at t4 something which if u say the farmers flip sides u guys shoulda been able to hold
ALUCARD 1208
Did he say Jump
Dock Workers
#31 - 2013-01-13 00:00:01 UTC
Mutnin wrote:
Cromwell Savage wrote:
Mutnin wrote:


Standard Gal battle cry.. HALP.. HALP.. I have a frig tackled I need 15 guys to assist..



LMAO!!!

Yes - confirming I have never been forced out of a plex while solo in a dessie against multiple squids who not only brought way more than just 2 or 3 to fight 1 (which I have still fought based on specific ship types), but loki boosts and EWAR....


LOL....I shoulda bought stock in Tampax before we took Ladister....... P


I was looking at your kills last month.. I just wanted to congratulate you on managing to get 5 whole solo kills, out of the 240 kills you got. I realize killing those Condors were likely tough fights and pushed you to your limits, but that cloaky transport, must have been an outstanding battle.

Props to a true Galentte Gladiator.. You must be a hero among heros with-in the Gal Militia for this outstanding accomplishment. You should get a medal!



uv killed 8 ships since july lol how can u comment
Cromwell Savage
The Screaming Seagulls
#32 - 2013-01-13 00:03:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Cromwell Savage
Mutnin wrote:
Cromwell Savage wrote:
Mutnin wrote:


Standard Gal battle cry.. HALP.. HALP.. I have a frig tackled I need 15 guys to assist..



LMAO!!!

Yes - confirming I have never been forced out of a plex while solo in a dessie against multiple squids who not only brought way more than just 2 or 3 to fight 1 (which I have still fought based on specific ship types), but loki boosts and EWAR....


LOL....I shoulda bought stock in Tampax before we took Ladister....... P


I was looking at your kills last month.. I just wanted to congratulate you on managing to get 5 whole solo kills, out of the 240 kills you got. I realize killing those Condors were likely tough fights and pushed you to your limits, but that cloaky transport, must have been an outstanding battle.

Props to a true Galentte Gladiator.. You must be a hero among heros with-in the Gal Militia for this outstanding accomplishment. You should get a medal!


LOL - you really are something there Damar Jr.... Always knew you to be a tool P

I didn't get to under 350 on BC by being an F1 monkey....or living in hi-sec and forum whoring...

Not my fault you don't have many [competent] friends to fly with. I have enough solo kills to suit me. As it is, I'm part of a corp...and alliance....and milita that actually likes to fly with each other. As such....we work together. Sometimes I'm solo...sometimes I'm small gang...sometimes larger gang.

Regardless...your obvious butthurt is definately making this "victory" even sweeter P

Do please keep replying.....you have no idea how entertaining you really are to us...
SaltyandSweet
V0LTA
WE FORM V0LTA
#33 - 2013-01-13 00:04:56 UTC
Mutnin wrote:
Cromwell Savage wrote:
Mutnin wrote:


Standard Gal battle cry.. HALP.. HALP.. I have a frig tackled I need 15 guys to assist..



LMAO!!!

Yes - confirming I have never been forced out of a plex while solo in a dessie against multiple squids who not only brought way more than just 2 or 3 to fight 1 (which I have still fought based on specific ship types), but loki boosts and EWAR....


LOL....I shoulda bought stock in Tampax before we took Ladister....... P


I was looking at your kills last month.. I just wanted to congratulate you on managing to get 5 whole solo kills, out of the 240 kills you got. I realize killing those Condors were likely tough fights and pushed you to your limits, but that cloaky transport, must have been an outstanding battle.

Props to a true Galentte Gladiator.. You must be a hero among heros with-in the Gal Militia for this outstanding accomplishment. You should get a medal!

its kinda sad how you have to look at someones killboard to try to troll, are you ******** or do you not realize FW is mostly about teamwork and not solo? youre just jelly there was nothing your trashass corp could do to stop the tide. i was looking at your corp name and dont have to look at a KB to realize how terribad you guys are. i cant wait to use t3 boosts to make you cry harder, and yea i know the whole "off grid newb boosts hurrdurr" .
seems like everytime the squiddies get their asses handed to em on a platter they cry about something.

Im So Baller I Buy Plex Cuz im too lazy to do PVE!

ALUCARD 1208
Did he say Jump
Dock Workers
#34 - 2013-01-13 00:11:22 UTC
didnt know massive multyplayer games had single player mode i kinda thought it was implied in the name.....

boohooo they have more friends than mee booo hooooooooo ..... maybe if u wasnt a tit ppl would actually play with u
Squatdog
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#35 - 2013-01-13 00:32:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Squatdog
Uh oh, the first Gallente system just flipped so it looks like the Gallente Jesus Blob have managed 'total system domination' ((LOL!) for less than a day.

Damn you EvOke for evening the odds!
ALUCARD 1208
Did he say Jump
Dock Workers
#36 - 2013-01-13 00:54:31 UTC
all evoke have done is show how incompetant the real caldari mill corps are they have less numbers than all of u put together but took them to flip a syatem.....

crow more about how u failed and a null bloc came in to do what u couldnt
Deacon Abox
Black Eagle5
Villore Accords
#37 - 2013-01-13 00:57:52 UTC
Squatdog wrote:
Uh oh, the first Gallente system just flipped so it looks like the Gallente Jesus Blob have managed 'total system domination' ((LOL!) for less than a day.

Damn you EvOke for evening the odds!

Sorry Dogsquat, it was actually a little over a day if you look at the time Lad was lost and compare it to the time that Okagaiken was lost. But anyway if you guys weren't such whiney assholes you'd probably have enough friends and goodwill to have prevented what we just accomplished. Yeah good on ev0ke for what they just did. I'm sure they'll be posting soon to say they couldn't have done it without you.

Every Cal mil player that engaged in battles in all the contested systems knows it was a pvp victory and not a pve victory. Both sides lost plenty of ships with no stabs on them. And if they, instead, like you are in denial, at least they aren't posting the caliber of bullshit you Dimmer, and Concealed Reptile do.

CCP, there are off buttons for ship explosions, missile effects, turret effects, etc. "Immersion" does not seem to be harmed by those. So, [u]please[/u] give us a persisting off button for the jump gate and autoscan visuals.

SaltyandSweet
V0LTA
WE FORM V0LTA
#38 - 2013-01-13 00:58:29 UTC
ALUCARD 1208 wrote:
all evoke have done is show how incompetant the real caldari mill corps are they have less numbers than all of u put together but took them to flip a syatem.....

crow more about how u failed and a null bloc came in to do what u couldnt

even so ev0ke is still a terrible alliance......

Im So Baller I Buy Plex Cuz im too lazy to do PVE!

X Gallentius
Black Eagle5
Villore Accords
#39 - 2013-01-13 01:01:23 UTC  |  Edited by: X Gallentius
Squatdog wrote:
Uh oh, the first Gallente system just flipped so it looks like the Gallente Jesus Blob have managed 'total system domination' ((LOL!) for less than a day. Damn you EvOke for evening the odds!
Ev0ke is an outside factor for which we still need to adjust. We will be communicating this to CCP Yttr, Hans, and CCP chatgris soon and they'll come up with something to help us out.
Zakki Zateki
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2013-01-13 01:49:37 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
Squatdog wrote:
Uh oh, the first Gallente system just flipped so it looks like the Gallente Jesus Blob have managed 'total system domination' ((LOL!) for less than a day. Damn you EvOke for evening the odds!
Ev0ke is an outside factor for which we still need to adjust. We will be communicating this to CCP Yttr, Hans, and CCP chatgris soon and they'll come up with something to help us out.


Once they see the joys of defensive plexing at tier1, I'm sure we'll be back at total domination once more