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Claimed PLEX on a character I sold

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Alexei Bourkov
Perkone
Caldari State
#161 - 2013-01-12 18:44:02 UTC
Voreldrix Toralen wrote:
How strange someone post their own abusive messages :)

I'm not breaking the forum / privacy rules and risk getting banned from them though , So Believe what you want, your opinion does not matter to me in the slightest because you have no involvement in the case Blink

And I think (So do many in game ISD's and players) that I am within my rights to do what im doing. I would be surprised if this went in the sellers favor but if it does then thats for CCP to decide, not some big mouthed child like your self :)


"I'm not being abusive"... Writes an abusive post. You're pretty defensive bro.
Voreldrix Toralen
Potatoe Role Players
#162 - 2013-01-12 18:46:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Voreldrix Toralen
Clearly not an alt there? xD

I'm not going to waste any more energy replying to you sir, your just flaming for the sake of flaming and im sure CCP will be whipping out the ban hammer on you Lol

Good day Smile
Othran
Route One
#163 - 2013-01-12 18:48:20 UTC
Voreldrix Toralen wrote:
Anyway im going off for an hour or 2.

Ill revisit all the new trolly / abusive comments when I get back, and for all those comments you should know that they to can easily get banned :) I will Remain respectful and within the rules and just read the rules yourselves before posting abusive / personal attacks on people Roll


Indeed. You yourself have been abusive.

Do you know what though? Were I you I'd be much much more worried about what this has done to your alts reps for buying/selling characters. Pretty much in the bin now buddy mmmm?
Pewty McPew
EVE Corporation 2357451
#164 - 2013-01-12 18:49:24 UTC
Voreldrix Toralen wrote:
Anyway im going off for an hour or 2.

Ill revisit all the new trolly / abusive comments when I get back, and for all those comments you should know that they to can easily get banned :) I will Remain respectful and within the rules and just read the rules yourselves before posting abusive / personal attacks on people Roll


30 Million ISK to the person who contracts me this A$$hats cold dead corpse. Higher bidders?


Voreldrix Toralen
Potatoe Role Players
#165 - 2013-01-12 18:52:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Voreldrix Toralen
This is a Planetary alt so Roll

Got plenty of others Lol
Voreldrix Toralen
Potatoe Role Players
#166 - 2013-01-12 18:53:06 UTC
Pewty McPew wrote:
[quote=Voreldrix Toralen] 30 Million ISK to the person who contracts me this A$$hats cold dead corpse. Higher bidders?


Hahahaha that gave me a good chuckle LolLolP
Alexei Bourkov
Perkone
Caldari State
#167 - 2013-01-12 19:10:34 UTC
Voreldrix Toralen wrote:
Clearly not an alt there? xD

I'm not going to waste any more energy replying to you sir, your just flaming for the sake of flaming and im sure CCP will be whipping out the ban hammer on you Lol

Good day Smile


I'll be the first to admit I'm a friend of the seller. Then again, the seller atleast has friends. Something that's possible when you practice honesty.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#168 - 2013-01-12 19:11:30 UTC
Voreldrix Toralen wrote:
Showing in game messages is prohibited, so are screenshots.

A place where the Seller actually breached the rules earlier.

Also items cant be transferred to characters in Stasis / Transfer mode. That is a fact as I have tried to do it with Christmas gifts etc.


If you can't substantiate your claims than why should we believe them? I would say the same to OP but you pretty much substantiated his claims for us by coming in here and getting all defensive about it. So far, I haven't seen any aggression or hostility from anyone but you (and a few random trolls).

Why is this thread even still here?

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Othran
Route One
#169 - 2013-01-12 19:19:17 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Why is this thread even still here?


It hasn't broken any rules.

OP seems happy to leave it, CCP seem happy.

2-3 alts aren't happy Blink
Mag's
Azn Empire
#170 - 2013-01-12 20:40:39 UTC
If this happened as the OP described, then it's a glitch and shouldn't be allowed. Characters in that state, should be locked from receiving a Plex.

It's plain to see who is the abusive aggressive one in this. Even resorting to using alts to back up his self righteous claims. But all I hear is the following......

Quote:
The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.

Lord Whisker
NetFlix Whilst Playing Eve
#171 - 2013-01-12 20:56:49 UTC
Please log funholder on
SB Rico
Sumo Wrestlers
#172 - 2013-01-12 21:24:28 UTC  |  Edited by: SB Rico
Raising again the earlier point Í made..

If he was aware a petition about this was made then the last thing he should do is return the PLEX

Leave them alone cos if the gm decides to hand em back and misses the fact they were sent already you are out that isk.

A counter petition asking for advice on what to do with them is also a good idea as if the gm decides no action is needed you could end up with 6 plex forever as you won't know what they decided.

Then you go down the moral path. But then this is EVE and we are allowed to be underhanded and immoral Twisted

Edit: Incidently I do find it funny how many folk are supporting the self-confessed scammer - personally I am thinking of roosting chickens.

Oh and I am not an alt of anyone just a bored third party offering sage words of advice Smile

Scammers are currently selling killrights on this toon for up to 5mil, if you have paid for this service demand your money back at once.

Killing me should be for free.

Vilnius Zar
SDC Multi Ten
#173 - 2013-01-12 21:36:01 UTC
OR, you can all just stop the cat fight and wait till CCP makes a decision, but that would be too logical I'm sure.
Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#174 - 2013-01-12 22:08:30 UTC
Jane Morozov wrote:
Lets go through the facts:

--He puts a Character up for sale which Takes me over a day to make the offer / get the isk sent and the transfer started, this is enough time to get anything removed.

-- APPARENTLY he then buys 6 PLEX using real money (I cant verify that, only CCP can)

-- APPARENTLY when the sale is COMPLETE and he himself starts the transfer he then 'accidently' then goes on Redeem items in game, which then comes up with an in game message ' Are you sure you wish to redeem xxxxx item on xxxxx character which is docked in xxxx station' so even then you have 2 chances to stop it.

-- Even if all this is true you have stated that it was a mistake and you gave it to the wrong character even though you knew the transfer was begun and after the multiple in game warnings. You STILL had a chance to contact customer support, there is even an E-MAIL which states if the transfer was a mistake you could cancel it.

When PLEX is claimed and becomes an IN GAME ITEM it is then not bound by any rules, like any other item. If you undocked and got those SIX PLEX blown up could you petition CCP and say, 'My PLEX was blown up refund me'? NO.

It is the same case with this you have had so many chances to stop it if it was truly a mistake but you haven't. Because the PLEX was claimed and now is AN IN GAME ITEM and the rules state that all items on the character when it is sold / being transfered are forfeit to the new owner.

I am not giving up items that by the rules that CCP wrote are now rightfully mine because you had some brain freeze according to you.

Like I said guys, I am not the bad guy. The mails he has sent me even before I have had chance to reply sum him up for the type of person he is and he is clearly trying to SCAM CCP back his real money because he didnt want the PLEX.


The point is, it's an honest mistake and he/she didn't leave them on the character prior to transfer. They were redeemed to the character by default due to an oversight on CCPs part. This doesn't fall into the character transfer 'rule' you posted imo.
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Syn Fatelyng
Redanni
#175 - 2013-01-12 22:18:09 UTC
Inside of EVE we're enemies.

Outside of EVE we're a community.

Never bite the community.
Voreldrix Toralen
Potatoe Role Players
#176 - 2013-01-12 22:25:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Voreldrix Toralen
None of you know if she is telling the truth, dont say 'oh it was a mistake' only CCP can see if it was a mistake or not.

Im waiting for CCP to contact me and not going to comment about this any further to be honest, its getting so old now.

The items were on my character after I bought it, so they are part of the transfer so they are mine endo presto. If it is a glitch then CCP will refund her but not out of my pocket since its not my fault. Also if it is a glitch so bizarre its only been found out now .

Also, If I had lost six PLEX i would fight a bit harder, she doesnt really seem to care., because she knows im right about being protected by the rules.

Either way I've done nothing wrong
Voreldrix Toralen
Potatoe Role Players
#177 - 2013-01-12 22:30:47 UTC
Rico are you referring to me or her as the scammer
Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#178 - 2013-01-12 22:39:37 UTC
Voreldrix Toralen wrote:
Rico are you referring to me or her as the scammer


ARE YOU TALKING TO ME?
ARE YOU

TALKING TO ME!?

Get ****** kid
SB Rico
Sumo Wrestlers
#179 - 2013-01-12 22:40:08 UTC
Fundholder check back a page or two for the shout out and response P

Scammers are currently selling killrights on this toon for up to 5mil, if you have paid for this service demand your money back at once.

Killing me should be for free.

ISD Cura Ursus
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#180 - 2013-01-12 23:05:57 UTC
Locking thread before this gets out of hand.


OP: Please continue your petition.

I will also be bringing this thread and the issues it bring up to my superiors.

ISD Cura Ursus

Lieutenant Commander

Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)

Interstellar Services Department