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Dealing with corp members

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Jake Blakeway
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-01-12 16:48:24 UTC
We have recently had an idiot infiltrate our corp. Now he is just being a nuiseance and running the enjoyment of the game for everyone. Sadly we can't just kick him out because he is not docked in a station and is just staying out in space where we can't touch him.

How do we deal with this?

Only kicking in stations is a stupid feature. Resigning from stations but being voted and kicked out should be instant, if the majority of the corp want it

Biocell manufacter and courier for hire

Forest Archer
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-01-12 16:57:06 UTC
Kill him, and pod him then kick.

Always willing to help all you have to do is ask, though if you're in the other fleet I may not help the way you want. Just a heads up. Pub Channel: Lost Souls Trading Post

Jake Blakeway
Doomheim
#3 - 2013-01-12 17:00:23 UTC
Sadly most of us are new players....and we dont have the training nor ships to overpower him unless like 20 of us attack at the same time, and considering we live in different time zones, it is hard to arrange. There should be a complaint line about this. None of our corp and leave our HQ without getting blown up

Biocell manufacter and courier for hire

Forest Archer
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-01-12 17:05:50 UTC
I'd love to help you by killing sadly not a corp jumper, but your best bet is either hire someone to kill him or petition it sorry man.

Always willing to help all you have to do is ask, though if you're in the other fleet I may not help the way you want. Just a heads up. Pub Channel: Lost Souls Trading Post

Jake Blakeway
Doomheim
#5 - 2013-01-12 17:09:26 UTC
He is cloaked as well, so we can't find him.

If there are any admins out there that could give us a hand with this so we can get on with our mining rather than being trolled i would be highly thankful

Biocell manufacter and courier for hire

Merouk Baas
#6 - 2013-01-12 17:24:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Merouk Baas
Currently the situation seems to be that you're besieged.

So, as another option, why not go to war with some actual PVP or merc corporation, put a big bounty on his head, and put his character name in your corp description or your CEO's Bio so your war enemies find him easily. Word it as if his character declares he's the boss and all that, and insult somebody's mother in his name.

It won't worsen your situation more than it already is, but it will worsen his.

Bonus if you have private talks with the CEO of the corp you're wardeccing, promising extra rewards once he's killed repeatedly. And, while the war is going on, you may even learn a thing or two about PVP.

EDIT: Or, join the corp to faction warfare. Same deal, except you can end it whenever you want, by leaving. Lots of people will be valid war targets against him.
Jake Blakeway
Doomheim
#7 - 2013-01-12 17:29:54 UTC
Hahaha sadly we cant do that , he is cloaked in 1.0 sec space. No one but us can find him or shoot him. It is depressing. No one wants him but we can't kick him.

Seriously screwed up feature.

Biocell manufacter and courier for hire

Merouk Baas
#8 - 2013-01-12 17:31:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Merouk Baas
Oh you'll be surprised what a determined enemy can do.

He's gotta decloak to attack you, right? So be bait, have your allies wait ready to pounce. If he's just chatting in channels you can block him I believe.

I would totally do it. That cloaked ship he's flying in is expensive. Show some balls and make his setup less fun, and he'll go away. Sometimes all it takes is the threat of war, and not the actual thing.
Jake Blakeway
Doomheim
#9 - 2013-01-12 17:33:07 UTC
thing is he is always AFK whne most of us are on. He waits until only like 2 or 3 of us are on and starts being a troll.

Biocell manufacter and courier for hire

Merouk Baas
#10 - 2013-01-12 17:34:32 UTC
Well he knows who all of you are and when you're on.

Enemy militia, lots of unknowns for him. Block him on the channels and undock now and then be bait in systems with war enemies.
Jake Blakeway
Doomheim
#11 - 2013-01-12 17:38:19 UTC
Yeah, that or the admins could get off their backsides and just kick him from our corp foricbly. I dont see why we have to wait for him to dock if everyone wants him kicked out.

Biocell manufacter and courier for hire

Braxus Deninard
Hard Knocks Inc.
Hard Knocks Citizens
#12 - 2013-01-12 17:39:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Braxus Deninard
Jake Blakeway wrote:
Hahaha sadly we cant do that , he is cloaked in 1.0 sec space. No one but us can find him or shoot him. It is depressing. No one wants him but we can't kick him.

Seriously screwed up feature.


EvE encourages this sort of gameplay. While he might be being a bit of an ass, you aren't going to get any admin/GM intervention, it's a part of the game. I agree that not being able to kick someone who isn't docked up is a bit annoying though. You guys made the mistake of letting him into your corp, and now you need to deal with the consequences.

As others have mentioned, fight fire with fire. There are plenty of people who would be willing to kill the guy for you, and if new players like you can find him while he's cloaked up, an experienced player should have no issues. if he always cloaks in the same spot it's even easier, just bookmark that spot and then warp your bounty hunter to it.

If he cloaks in different spots, scan him down. There's always a way to find and kill him, such is the nature of EvE. He's probably AFK a huge amount of the time as well, so it should be a relatively easy find and kill.
Merouk Baas
#13 - 2013-01-12 17:39:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Merouk Baas
Ok, well good luck with that petition then. Hope they do it for you. In my experience, CCP doesn't get involved in corp affairs. Even CEO switchover happens after 6 months of proven inactivity. But who knows?

EDIT: AFK cloak is hard to find, but if you all move to a different system he will have to come after you to harrass you, and he will be visible (however briefly) at stargates once he does so. He's only hard to find while AFK cloaked, if you get him to move he'll be vulnerable. If you move into a popular militia area and THEN join it, he'll be fubar trying to follow. There are ways.

But anyway, nevermind. Wait for the petition answer. Good luck.
Azitek
Serenity Labs
#14 - 2013-01-12 19:21:23 UTC
If he only attacks when there's a few of you on, you could do like he does and just AFK instead of logging off. It's not perfect, but it makes it harder for him to tell who's actually online. Also, make another chat instead of corp chat, and invite everyone except him to it, so he can't tell by chat who's AFK.
Vilnius Zar
SDC Multi Ten
#15 - 2013-01-12 19:44:44 UTC
You can remove him from corp if he's not logged in. If he's abusing the "can't be kicked from corp" mechanics (which he seems to be) you CAN petition it.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#16 - 2013-01-12 21:34:01 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
Jake Blakeway wrote:
We have recently had an idiot infiltrate our corp. Now he is just being a nuiseance and running the enjoyment of the game for everyone. Sadly we can't just kick him out because he is not docked in a station and is just staying out in space where we can't touch him.

How do we deal with this?

Only kicking in stations is a stupid feature. Resigning from stations but being voted and kicked out should be instant, if the majority of the corp want it


Wait till he logs off.

You can kick people who are logged of no matter where they are.

Also, the ability to kick people only while docked is for grief reasons.
If that rule is lifted you could kick any corp member while you are with him on grid etc to evade for instance a wardec.
This would be highly exploited as anybody with a war target on him would just leave corp / ask to be kicked to safe the ship and see people get shot down by CONCORD cause you are no longer a war target at that second.

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Praxis Ginimic
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2013-01-12 22:51:26 UTC
Why not try the ol' logoffski? Take a heavily tanked skiff out to a belt with a few others in gank cruisers. Have tje cruisers log off and proceed to mine. When the guy shows up log the cruiser pilots back on and destroy. The thorax, vexor amd carakal are grwat for this. Or some suicide talwars/catalysts.
Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#18 - 2013-01-12 23:56:38 UTC
You have 3 options as far as I can tell.


If he trolls chat:
1) Everyone in corp/alliance mutes the player, and ignores him.

If he attacks people:
2) Someone gets in a bait ship like a skiff, and you do a logon trap. A few people in decent pvp ships logoff in the belt, tanked skiff has tackle. Only 1 or 2 people are online, he tackles skiff, skiff tackles him, login, kill, boot. Problem solved.

3) Create another corp, put a single pvper in it, and wardec it. Cost will be very low. Declare the war mutual, then put some pvpers in that corp. This way, your annoying guy can't tell how many people in your corp/alliance are online. Then do the same trick with the skiff.

If he isn't attacking people, and is just sitting in a 1.0 system, really, just have everyone mute/block him. Feel free to send him an evemail informing him you have done so. As soon as he realizes noone can hear him trolling, he will leave.
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#19 - 2013-01-13 08:17:30 UTC
You should be able to kick him when he's logged off. If you've tried that and you can't then you need to file a petition because that shouldn't be the case.

As for kicking people from a corporation while they are in space. It might suck for you that you can't get rid of the dude, however there are a bunch of game mechanics that rely on characters not suddenly changing corporations while logged in and in space in order to function correctly. It's important that you not be able to just kick a character from a corp at the drop of a hat for highsec gameplay to be not totally terrible.
Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
#20 - 2013-01-13 13:25:04 UTC
Jake Blakeway wrote:
Yeah, that or the admins could get off their backsides and just kick him from our corp foricbly. I dont see why we have to wait for him to dock if everyone wants him kicked out.


If you're seriously asking why it works this way instead of just randomly whining, it's because if you could kick people from corp in space you could pull all sorts of trollish griefing with docking rights in sovereignty space. Your situation is not considered a priority because, frankly, it's being maintained more by your own unwillingness to invest real effort in resolving the situation (sell off some kill rights to mercenaries, set up bait and a sting, have some mercs declare mutual war on your corp specifically to deal with him, etc) than anything he's doing.
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