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Possibility of a Bellicose Droneship

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Ch'vonne Skjem-Apol
Hathor Federation
#1 - 2013-01-11 14:21:19 UTC
Still fairly new and patiently grinding my SP.

I'm just about ready to move up to my first standard cruiser. Since I'm Minnie, I was wondering if it was possible to configure a Bellicose as a drone ship for lvl 1-2 mission running and some low level pvp. The appears to be balanced enough to support drones and ac turrets although I am aware that there are no bonuses for drones, thus possibly making this whole experiment moot.

Any thoughts or suggestions. I'm hoping I won't have to train out to Gallente (ie Vexor) to accomplish this.
Ch'vonne Skjem-Apol
Hathor Federation
#2 - 2013-01-11 14:23:14 UTC
Forgot to mention, that I do have my drone SP trained up as I am in the minority and enjoy mining.
Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#3 - 2013-01-11 14:35:11 UTC
If you already have some decent drone skills, it doesn't take much time to crosstrain to a proper drone ship. A vexor with gallente cruiser 3 is probably more effective than a bellicose, even with minmatar cruiser 5, if you fly it like a drone ship.

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Veronica Kerrigan
VKCorp 2.0
#4 - 2013-01-11 15:27:36 UTC
Or, if you really hate gallente, which I wouldn't blame you for, the arbitrator makes a decent droneship, and the amarr line compliments the minmatar one quite nicely. If you train the two, you can be useful in every fleet, and PvE situation.
Ch'vonne Skjem-Apol
Hathor Federation
#5 - 2013-01-11 15:46:43 UTC
Veronica Kerrigan wrote:
Or, if you really hate gallente, which I wouldn't blame you for, the arbitrator makes a decent droneship, and the amarr line compliments the minmatar one quite nicely. If you train the two, you can be useful in every fleet, and PvE situation.


Salvation!

Thank you much...I was dreading cross-training to Gally.

Shereza
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-01-11 17:23:35 UTC
Personally, this is the closest I'd really want to take a bellicose to being a "drone boat."

[Bellicose, New Setup 1]
Medium Armor Repairer II
Armor EM Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Ballistic Control System II

Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile

Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst I
Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I


Hammerhead II x3
Hobgoblin II x2


Without a real drone bonus and with only 40mb3 drone there's not really much reason to try to augment the ship's drone capabilities. Still...
[Bellicose, New Setup 2]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Ballistic Control System II

10MN Afterburner II
Medium Shield Booster II
EM Ward Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Missile

Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst I


Hammerhead II x3
Hobgoblin II x2

Only reason I've got a painter there instead of an omni link is a nod to the ship bonus and the fact that it can boost missile damage against smaller targets.
Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2013-01-11 18:09:14 UTC
Ch'vonne Skjem-Apol wrote:
Still fairly new and patiently grinding my SP.

I'm just about ready to move up to my first standard cruiser. Since I'm Minnie, I was wondering if it was possible to configure a Bellicose as a drone ship for lvl 1-2 mission running and some low level pvp. The appears to be balanced enough to support drones and ac turrets although I am aware that there are no bonuses for drones, thus possibly making this whole experiment moot.

Any thoughts or suggestions. I'm hoping I won't have to train out to Gallente (ie Vexor) to accomplish this.

I would go for missile fit instead.

Life is short and dinner time is chancy

Eat dessert first!

Ch'vonne Skjem-Apol
Hathor Federation
#8 - 2013-01-11 20:16:25 UTC
Caleidascope wrote:
Ch'vonne Skjem-Apol wrote:
Still fairly new and patiently grinding my SP.

I'm just about ready to move up to my first standard cruiser. Since I'm Minnie, I was wondering if it was possible to configure a Bellicose as a drone ship for lvl 1-2 mission running and some low level pvp. The appears to be balanced enough to support drones and ac turrets although I am aware that there are no bonuses for drones, thus possibly making this whole experiment moot.

Any thoughts or suggestions. I'm hoping I won't have to train out to Gallente (ie Vexor) to accomplish this.

I would go for missile fit instead.


Is that b/c of the missile bonus or b/c missile is just a better option in this case?
Ch'vonne Skjem-Apol
Hathor Federation
#9 - 2013-01-11 20:17:59 UTC
Shereza wrote:
Personally, this is the closest I'd really want to take a bellicose to being a "drone boat."

[Bellicose, New Setup 1]
Medium Armor Repairer II
Armor EM Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Ballistic Control System II

Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile

Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst I
Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I


Hammerhead II x3
Hobgoblin II x2


Without a real drone bonus and with only 40mb3 drone there's not really much reason to try to augment the ship's drone capabilities. Still...
[Bellicose, New Setup 2]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Ballistic Control System II

10MN Afterburner II
Medium Shield Booster II
EM Ward Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Missile

Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst I


Hammerhead II x3
Hobgoblin II x2

Only reason I've got a painter there instead of an omni link is a nod to the ship bonus and the fact that it can boost missile damage against smaller targets.


Thanks much for the fittings :)
Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2013-01-12 00:14:58 UTC
Ch'vonne Skjem-Apol wrote:
Caleidascope wrote:
Ch'vonne Skjem-Apol wrote:
Still fairly new and patiently grinding my SP.

I'm just about ready to move up to my first standard cruiser. Since I'm Minnie, I was wondering if it was possible to configure a Bellicose as a drone ship for lvl 1-2 mission running and some low level pvp. The appears to be balanced enough to support drones and ac turrets although I am aware that there are no bonuses for drones, thus possibly making this whole experiment moot.

Any thoughts or suggestions. I'm hoping I won't have to train out to Gallente (ie Vexor) to accomplish this.

I would go for missile fit instead.


Is that b/c of the missile bonus or b/c missile is just a better option in this case?

Drones get eaten by rats these days so they are not reliable providers of dps. And because the missile bonus. And missiles don't need tracking and stuff.

I rarely if ever used the tp bonus on bellicose, just fit tank and dps.

Life is short and dinner time is chancy

Eat dessert first!

Shereza
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-01-12 07:41:49 UTC
I was under the impression that the changes to mission NPC AI only affected L4s and that light drones were only targetted by frigates (and presumably destroyers), elite frigates, and elite cruisers with medium drones also being targetted by cruisers. Did CCP change their minds and roll out the AI upgrade for L1, L2, L3, and L5 missions and/or belt rats too?
Akuma Tsukai
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-01-12 14:01:59 UTC
All. And "only frigates" blanter is just a fairy tale of CCP **** lovers not noticing that this was an actual nerf to already overnerfed drones.