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CCP Punkturis Callout: How much and how many bounties have been placed?

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#1 - 2013-01-12 12:01:06 UTC
Does anyone have any numbers on how many bounties have been placed, and how much ISK they total? (And maybe how much has been paid out?)

It would be interesting to compare it to the pre-Retribution figures.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
ISD TYPE40
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2013-01-12 12:08:34 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Does anyone have any numbers on how many bounties have been placed, and how much ISK they total? (And maybe how much has been paid out?)

It would be interesting to compare it to the pre-Retribution figures.



I have to admit to being quite curious about this as well. It may also be interesting to know where most bounties are being "claimed" Smile

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leviticus ander
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-01-12 12:24:43 UTC
I know that I accidentally made someone ragequit the game after putting a 100 mil bounty on them.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#4 - 2013-01-12 12:35:02 UTC
leviticus ander wrote:
I know that I accidentally made someone ragequit the game after putting a 100 mil bounty on them.


They'll be back

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
NEONOVUS
Mindstar Technology
Goonswarm Federation
#5 - 2013-01-12 15:25:31 UTC
Check my deaths since Retribution, they have all had bounty claimed.
I placed about 30 since with only 5 having been collected on.
Kill rights left me with 4 activations.

Really there needs to be an easier way to get krs than podding in low or being ganked in high.
iskflakes
#6 - 2013-01-12 15:35:33 UTC
This would be interesting data to see. Does anybody know if bounty amount is available in the API?

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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#7 - 2013-01-12 15:36:42 UTC
Over 9000?



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There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#8 - 2013-01-12 15:39:15 UTC
I would love to know this too. Cool

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mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-01-12 15:41:27 UTC
About a week after Retribution was launched I seem to remember hearing that eight trillion isk worth of bounties had been placed. Of course, it's over a month later now... P

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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-01-12 15:45:09 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
leviticus ander wrote:
I know that I accidentally made someone ragequit the game after putting a 100 mil bounty on them.


They'll be back


Dude... haven't you heard? It only takes 100K to make them ragequit.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#11 - 2013-01-12 15:50:13 UTC
mynnna wrote:
About a week after Retribution was launched I seem to remember hearing that eight trillion isk worth of bounties had been placed. Of course, it's over a month later now... P


8 trillion??

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-01-12 15:52:11 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
mynnna wrote:
About a week after Retribution was launched I seem to remember hearing that eight trillion isk worth of bounties had been placed. Of course, it's over a month later now... P


8 trillion??


I'd like to see data on how much of that has been claimed.

Is this the isk sink EVE needed, or the one that EVE wanted got away?

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-01-12 16:04:07 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
mynnna wrote:
About a week after Retribution was launched I seem to remember hearing that eight trillion isk worth of bounties had been placed. Of course, it's over a month later now... P


8 trillion??


I'd like to see data on how much of that has been claimed.

Is this the isk sink EVE needed, or the one that EVE wanted got away?

I can't imagine CCP would consider the bounty system as "working" if it became nothing more than an ISK sink.

If its just a sink then shouldn't that mean no one is bounty hunting, and if no one is bounty hunting wouldn't that mean that CCP failed to do what they set out to do, make a bounty system people will use.

The value of the bounty system should not be that of a sink.
mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-01-12 16:09:09 UTC  |  Edited by: mynnna
Malcanis wrote:
mynnna wrote:
About a week after Retribution was launched I seem to remember hearing that eight trillion isk worth of bounties had been placed. Of course, it's over a month later now... P


8 trillion??

https://twitter.com/Seleene_EVE/status/278807461404753921

That was the source. Had to dig a bit to find it. It would not surprise me to learn that the rate of bounty placement has dropped off quite a bit now that there's less of a "new shiny" factor to it, but it's probably still an impressively large number.

Regarding bounties as a sink, I put my thoughts out there awhile ago. They're a soft sink. Plenty of isk has and will likely continue to get placed on people who never actually die, but if that person quits at least part of the bounty is refunded to the players who set it. But since (in theory) anyone can be killed for their bounty at any time, it's not a hard sink the way fees and taxes are. Which is fine - there are plenty of other tweaks CCP can make to increase the number of hard sinks in Eve, and as Natsett so correctly stated above me, the point of the system is not to serve as an isk sink anyway.

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fukier
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2013-01-12 16:10:03 UTC
ISD TYPE40 wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Does anyone have any numbers on how many bounties have been placed, and how much ISK they total? (And maybe how much has been paid out?)

It would be interesting to compare it to the pre-Retribution figures.



I have to admit to being quite curious about this as well. It may also be interesting to know where most bounties are being "claimed" Smile


i think we need a dev blog as a follow up... i allways like metrics and graphs...
At the end of the game both the pawn and the Queen go in the same box.
leviticus ander
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2013-01-13 00:01:35 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
leviticus ander wrote:
I know that I accidentally made someone ragequit the game after putting a 100 mil bounty on them.


They'll be back

I should note, they ragequit that account. they made an alt that he's not telling anyone about.
and the beautiful part was that it was a perfect tengu pilot with heavy industry skills.
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#17 - 2013-01-13 02:11:30 UTC
Does it matter? System is currently broken in many ways. What's the point in paying out bounties for 0.0 kills?
If Concord doesn't operate in 0.0, if no additional incentive is required to shoot at someone in 0.0, why would you pay out kills in 0.0? What?


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Justin Valentine
Mickey Mouse Club
#18 - 2013-01-13 02:18:44 UTC
leviticus ander wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
leviticus ander wrote:
I know that I accidentally made someone ragequit the game after putting a 100 mil bounty on them.


They'll be back

I should note, they ragequit that account. they made an alt that he's not telling anyone about.
and the beautiful part was that it was a perfect tengu pilot with heavy industry skills.

You're boreing
Luc Chastot
#19 - 2013-01-13 03:58:33 UTC
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
mynnna wrote:
About a week after Retribution was launched I seem to remember hearing that eight trillion isk worth of bounties had been placed. Of course, it's over a month later now... P


8 trillion??


I'd like to see data on how much of that has been claimed.

Is this the isk sink EVE needed, or the one that EVE wanted got away?

I can't imagine CCP would consider the bounty system as "working" if it became nothing more than an ISK sink.

If its just a sink then shouldn't that mean no one is bounty hunting, and if no one is bounty hunting wouldn't that mean that CCP failed to do what they set out to do, make a bounty system people will use.

The value of the bounty system should not be that of a sink.


How I see it, it's a sink either way:

If people are hunting, then the 5:1 payment ratio works as a sing; if few people are hunting, then the money is going into bounties that are not being paid, but still can't be recovered.

Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot.

RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#20 - 2013-01-13 05:10:15 UTC
Paging CCP Diagoras?

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
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