EVE General Discussion

So give us folks a break when we say "PVP is dead", because our idea of what PVP is, is not the same as yours. We would be happy with a place where we could 1v1 all day long in various ships without getting hot-dropped by capitals or guardians. A place where we could leroy a megathron into a small gang in a belt without a local spike of 20 entering system. We are interested in another form of "solo PVP" that seems to go beyond your meager desires for self elevation and disillusionment. We just want to have a little fun when we come home from work without having to wait so long, and fight actual opponents in the process. We don't want to take down entire BLOPs fleets, we just want some reasonable good fights with real pvp'ers.

That's a really interesting point, so I did the math to confirm it. How could that Arby take 15,225 damage?

The Arby as set up has 11,569 hit points according to EFT, so we have 3656 unaccounted-for hit points on the killmail.

But we still haven't considered passive shield recharge, which can be significant over extended periods of time.

The fight lasted ~15 minutes, and EFT says the Arby's passive shield recharge is 4 DPS at a zero-resist profile. This multiplies out to 3600 hit points repaired by shields during the fight.

If you add the Arby's buffer to the shield recharge value, you get 15,169, well within the margin of error and actually eerily close to 15,225. However, EFT's number is for peak recharge, and the Arby was probably pretty far from peak recharge most of the time, making it unlikely that it tanked a full 3600 hit points from just passive shield recharge.

I'm left unsure of what to believe. Maybe someone can point to an error in my analysis, or an alternative explanation for the large-ish amount of damage taken by the Arby.

I thought of writing an essay on how delusional OP's fantasies are, but you summarized the important parts.

Winning is a result of two non-exclusive conditions- you are superior (either experience, skills, equipment), or the other party makes a mistake.

So yeah, you can devalue every single kill (or any victory in history of mankind) by saying "but the loser was stupid, new and in a failfit and should have done X". Yes, every killmail in existence.

People like you don't seem to understand the difference between "I defeated an opponent because I was superior" and "I defeated a stupid and unworthy opponent because I was of moderate to average intelligence".

So in your version of "reality" we can send an Olympic gold gold medalist into the special Olympics, and not only be entertained by the contest (in a manner that was not hilarity) but also be proud of the Olympian after he wipes the floor with them.

You don't seem to understand what the term "contest" means.

Oh I see, so you do think that you can put an Olympian up against the kids in the special Olympics, that we would be entertained by watching that contest and that when the Olympian beats that boy with down-syndrome that makes the gold medalist his "better".

Amazing the kind of personalities you meet one these forums LOL. You sir have a very interesting and disturbing perspective on "reality".

Why are you siting cheaters who are getting dropped by their name brands and persecuted as a measure of "contest"?


Here let me let me help you

^ contest. Fun to watch and fun to participate in.