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Angry Onions
League of Angered Gentlemen
#21 - 2011-10-24 03:11:34 UTC
Spr09 wrote:
these ships are going to be pvp ships, but we need a thread (maybe use this one) to say what we dont want this ship to be. i dont want a small ship that takes longer to lock killing me with large guns before i can even lock it! if this ship is going to be balanced i think it can't have tracking bonuses, a fast lock time, or enough medium slots to sebo the thing up to 2000. these things are pretty much going to be paper-thin gun boats, so they shouldn't have more than 3 small or mid slots.


They're not frigates or dessies, if that happened, it would completely invalidate their usefulness. They're all ready going to be paper thin as it , giving them such a stupid low amount of slots is practically making the ship useless. They will be hopefully designed to hit hard and fast and by limiting them to such low amount of mid slots, you reduce them to literally guns attached to engines with NO useful purpose besides fire crackers. Lrn2pvp

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Smiling Menace
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2011-10-24 03:13:30 UTC
Spr09 wrote:
these ships are going to be pvp ships, but we need a thread (maybe use this one) to say what we dont want this ship to be. i dont want a small ship that takes longer to lock killing me with large guns before i can even lock it! if this ship is going to be balanced i think it can't have tracking bonuses, a fast lock time, or enough medium slots to sebo the thing up to 2000. these things are pretty much going to be paper-thin gun boats, so they shouldn't have more than 3 small or mid slots.


Would suck to be Caldari again with this proposal and to a lesser extent, Minmatar.

The BC's we have now are pretty good (unless you are Gallente in which case, winter is almost here!) and they do pack a mighty punch (Arty Canes spring to mind) but they still die very easily to BS fleets.

BS's are still used extensively in null sec to combat faster, nimbler BC's so I really don't think BS's need a buff. They still fill their role well (unless you are Gallente in which case, winter is almost here!).

I think with this one we will need to wait and see. Can't really make any sort of informed opinions without knowing the specs of the new tier 3 BC's.
Mal Darkrunner
Zero Tau Research Institute
#23 - 2011-10-24 17:08:37 UTC
I'm looking forward to these new Tier-3 battlecruisers, however I do believe they need to have their own role, and should not simply be "a better hurricane" or "a more agile battleship". Having said that, so long as their strengths are balanced by suitable weaknesses, and so long as they do not overshadow battleships or their Tier-2 cousins, they should be an interesting addition to the line-up. I'll reserve judgement till I've seen some more details about their stats and performance.
pooper stain
Pyrrhic-Victory
#24 - 2011-10-24 18:24:48 UTC
Angry Onions wrote:

They're not frigates or dessies, if that happened, it would completely invalidate their usefulness. They're all ready going to be paper thin as it , giving them such a stupid low amount of slots is practically making the ship useless. They will be hopefully designed to hit hard and fast and by limiting them to such low amount of mid slots, you reduce them to literally guns attached to engines with NO useful purpose besides fire crackers. Lrn2pvp


I disagree Angry, these ships need to have there low, mids limited. You give them too many mids and lows they will replace the canes, drakes, etc ..

I Think they need a 5/4/3 for min/caldari and 5/3/4 for amarr/gal That way they will be "glass cannons" for sure.
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2011-10-24 20:50:19 UTC
I am fairly positive these will end up being pure DPS boats. Likely they might work for PvE a little and they will end up being Capital busters. Small enough that supercaps have a hard time hitting them but big enough guns to do the damage to take out a capital ship.

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JitaJane
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#26 - 2011-10-25 04:06:46 UTC
I think you hit the nail on the head with paper DPS. Time was all I wanted in Eve was a 'Cane with 8 turret slots. I coveted this. The thing is it makes the BS somewhat more pointless. But if they are going to give a CPU/PG reduction for large turrets then those turrets will have all of the shortcomings that they have on a BS. Just without a BS frame supporting them. Which may be satisfying to EFT warriors but results in a BS with worse tracking and likely (have'nt seen the slots for them yet) worse tank than a TeirII BC. To mine innocent eyes that looks like a gang role-filler. Which would add flavor without removing balance Mmmm. the only fault in that plan is it relies on the forethought of CCP.....

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