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Just a thought regarding pure PvP.
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Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#1 - 2013-01-11 17:50:44 UTC
At the end of the day EVE Online is just that: a game. It's a competitive, adversarial game... but it is a game nonetheless. Winning is good, yes, but more important than winning is having fun and enjoying the experience.

At the end of the day, if your opponents do not have fun engaging you (ie; playing with you) - then they won't.

Just some food for thought.

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist
SeaSaw
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2013-01-11 17:53:10 UTC
Good Xuixien;

And not only that, if you don't have enough money to buy something you have to

a) borrow money
b) not buy it
c) steal it

Just an idea for everyone to consider.

your humble servent
SeaSaw
Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#3 - 2013-01-11 17:55:13 UTC
SeaSaw wrote:
Good Xuixien;

And not only that, if you don't have enough money to buy something you have to

a) borrow money
b) not buy it
c) steal it

Just an idea for everyone to consider.

your humble servent
SeaSaw


Yep I'm stating the obvious. Had to, because it seems "common sense" just ain't that common.

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist
Ares Desideratus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2013-01-11 20:37:31 UTC
Dear Queen of Rens :D

You didn't mention losing. Losing is never fun but it happens to everyone at some point. Knowing how to lose is one of the most important thing in this game, maybe in life.

But like you said "having fun and enjoying the experience," this is the middle ground of winning or losing, the neutrality of the war, the land in the midst of the oceans, the last remaining light in the darkness.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#5 - 2013-01-11 20:56:45 UTC
Whether I win of lose, I always give them a 'gf' in local. I find that I smile regardless of who won the fight.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#6 - 2013-01-12 01:18:36 UTC
Ares Desideratus wrote:
Losing is never fun but it happens to everyone at some point.


I think you are wrong... I've lost many fights I had a huge blast in. The last Amarr vs Gallente fight in OMS ended wtih the Amarr fleet mostly whiped out, but it was a huge blast and we'd do it again in a heart beat..

I agree that learning how to lose is important, and even moreso, learning from your losses is important. Realize that "winning" isn't everything...

Finally, in a sandbox like eve, there are many ways you can define "winning" and losing.
Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#7 - 2013-01-12 04:20:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Xuixien
Have had many fun fights where I lost. I've also had some lame, boring fights (ie, when there's 3 of us and E-UNI drops 6 Griffins) where I've lost. I've also had boring fights where I won (ie, 20 vs 1).

Winning/Losing isn't the point.

Some people are so wrapped up in the "win" that they lose sight of everything, bringing blobs of ECM and logi to small fights. Hey guys, and you know who you are, people remember you, remember how you fight, and will decide whether or not to engage you in the future based on what you fielded in the past. Just some food for thought for certain people crying that no one will fight them.

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2013-01-12 08:41:25 UTC
Xuixien wrote:
Winning/Losing isn't the point.

depends on whether you are trying to achieve a strategic objective or not.

.
Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#9 - 2013-01-12 09:59:22 UTC
Vera Algaert wrote:
Xuixien wrote:
Winning/Losing isn't the point.

depends on whether you are trying to achieve a strategic objective or not.


Please reread title of thread. Thx.

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#10 - 2013-01-12 12:31:06 UTC
Xuixien wrote:
At the end of the day EVE Online is just that: a game. It's a competitive, adversarial game... but it is a game nonetheless. Winning is good, yes, but more important than winning is having fun and enjoying the experience.

At the end of the day, if your opponents do not have fun engaging you (ie; playing with you) - then they won't.

Just some food for thought.



You're forgetting the part where none of us are responsible for the fun of others?

If losing means no fun.. Get better and win... have fun?



What i'm saying is that i think the above mentioned thought is kinda silly.

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Davion Falcon
Those Once Loyal
#11 - 2013-01-12 15:06:01 UTC
Mongol General: Conan, what is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.

Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise. Never forgotten, never forgiven.
Flyingleanpocket
Amarrian Vengeance
Ragequit Cancel Sub
#12 - 2013-01-12 21:41:41 UTC
Xuixien wrote:
Have had many fun fights where I lost. I've also had some lame, boring fights (ie, when there's 3 of us and E-UNI drops 6 Griffins) where I've lost. I've also had boring fights where I won (ie, 20 vs 1).

Winning/Losing isn't the point.

Some people are so wrapped up in the "win" that they lose sight of everything, bringing blobs of ECM and logi to small fights. Hey guys, and you know who you are, people remember you, remember how you fight, and will decide whether or not to engage you in the future based on what you fielded in the past. Just some food for thought for certain people crying that no one will fight them.



OMG the same thing happened to me by U'K and DK ! you know what i did? HTFU, bought grails and fought anyway


on a related note im glad the forums dont have the same block mechanic that exists in the game because we bocked each other a long time ago
Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
#13 - 2013-01-12 22:15:24 UTC
Quote:
we bocked each other a long time ago


Sounds dirty.
Dan Carter Murray
#14 - 2013-01-12 23:27:22 UTC
i think this post is related to the Ushra'Khan fleet:

stabber fleet issue
stabber fleet issue
cerberus
maller

who fought the fleet:
maller
eagle
vexor

with the final U'K deaths:
2 stabber fleet issue
1 maller

and enemy fleet deaths:
1 vexor

and cries in local about bad pvp because 1 maller on the enemy fleet accidentally had ec-300 (the maller can hold 3 ec-300) which was for a different purpose in a fight a few days before. These 3 ec-300 apparently jammed out one of the stabber fleet issues making the fight a 3v3 instead of a 4v3.

On another note, the cerberus was firing scourge at the eagle pretty much the entire fight.

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Spheranzinne
Color of Violence
#15 - 2013-01-12 23:58:36 UTC
Tears show we're pure.
Cynthia Nezmor
Nezmor's Golden Griffins
#16 - 2013-01-13 09:34:56 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Whether I win of lose, I always give them a 'gf' in local. I find that I smile regardless of who won the fight.


I also give them gf when my dual stabbed frigates escape. Sometimes I get some hilarious responses.
Cynthia Nezmor
Nezmor's Golden Griffins
#17 - 2013-01-13 09:37:34 UTC
Dan Carter Murray wrote:
i think this post is related to the Ushra'Khan fleet:

stabber fleet issue
stabber fleet issue
cerberus
maller

who fought the fleet:
maller
eagle
vexor

with the final U'K deaths:
2 stabber fleet issue
1 maller

and enemy fleet deaths:
1 vexor

and cries in local about bad pvp because 1 maller on the enemy fleet accidentally had ec-300 (the maller can hold 3 ec-300) which was for a different purpose in a fight a few days before. These 3 ec-300 apparently jammed out one of the stabber fleet issues making the fight a 3v3 instead of a 4v3.

On another note, the cerberus was firing scourge at the eagle pretty much the entire fight.


You know what your problem is? You cant have fun in this game. The honourable ushrakong alliance, the oldest one in eve has a TRADITION of firing the wrong ammo. They shoot Vengeances with fusion, and then switch to Merlin and shoot it with fusion too, BECAUSE THEY KNOW HOW TO HAVE FUN! You are just mad, that you have real friends, and not internetspaceshipbuddies who can jump into every fight by the dozens to save your ass. Twisted
Cynthia Nezmor
Nezmor's Golden Griffins
#18 - 2013-01-13 09:39:28 UTC
Flyingleanpocket wrote:
Xuixien wrote:
Have had many fun fights where I lost. I've also had some lame, boring fights (ie, when there's 3 of us and E-UNI drops 6 Griffins) where I've lost. I've also had boring fights where I won (ie, 20 vs 1).

Winning/Losing isn't the point.

Some people are so wrapped up in the "win" that they lose sight of everything, bringing blobs of ECM and logi to small fights. Hey guys, and you know who you are, people remember you, remember how you fight, and will decide whether or not to engage you in the future based on what you fielded in the past. Just some food for thought for certain people crying that no one will fight them.



OMG the same thing happened to me by U'K and DK ! you know what i did? HTFU, bought grails and fought anyway


on a related note im glad the forums dont have the same block mechanic that exists in the game because we bocked each other a long time ago


Xui tends to troll real softly, but when simple confronted with her own lies, she quickly blocks you, thats HOW YOU HAVE FUN IN LOCAL CHAT. Silly noob...