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DUST 514 Live on Tranquility - Issues & Feedback

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Ugleb
Jotunn Risi
#41 - 2013-01-10 21:48:36 UTC
Quotes from the FAQ:

Quote:
The DUST merc's corporation does NOT have to be enrolled in FW to accept these contracts. DUST CEOs/Directors can accept a contract from any faction at any time (even if the EVE side of their corp is enrolled in FW on the other side or if the corp has bad standings with that faction! A true mercenary fights for the highest bidder)


This means that the Dusties in a Caldari FW corp can accept missions from the Gallente against the Caldari. There doesn't appear to be any penalties for doing so either, I haven't seen anything to suggest that Dust514 has a standings mechanic.

I don't like that idea, it doesn't make sense to me that Capsuleers have so many restrictions placed upon them for joining a corp signed up to FW while the Dust mercs apparently have none, nor do their actions reflect upon their corp. I think this should be changed so that Dusties are not offered contracts from their opposing factions (if the corp they are in is enrolled to FW), bringing them in line with their Capsuleer corp mates.

Quote:
This iteration of Orbital Bombardment is focused on the Tactical Strike variant which is performed with specialized ammo for small turret based weapons. Each turret category has a specialized ammo type: - Hybrids: Tactical Hybrid S - Lasers: Tactical Laser S - Projectiles: Tactical EMP S

The hybrid strike delivers a nice spread of high-damage rounds that are effective against infantry and vehicles. Laser strikes have a more focused area and are good for taking out installations or heavy vehicles. The EMP strike does a massive amount of damage to shields in a large area, but it will not damage armor, so it's good against heavily shield tanked targets.


As a Minmatar, I find the idea that my devastating EMP barrage is apparently unable to actually kill anything alarming! Surely Tactical EMP S can do something against armor, like standard EMP S does to spaceships? No?

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Niveuss Nye
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#42 - 2013-01-10 22:00:13 UTC
I understand beta is beta and CCP still has things they need to work on without unfair judgements.

Still, it would be kind of nice to lift the NDA so us folks that do not have playstations can theorycraft/ criticsise/ be in awe of/ etc various mechanics. After all, this is not a vacuum and will affect some of us.

TLDR: Lift NDA!
phyrexianavatar
Fearless and Inventive
#43 - 2013-01-10 22:04:05 UTC
I sent in a petition earlier, and have not seen it mentioned:

When DUST players join the channel "dust514" they get put into "dust 514" (with a space)

This is leading to a large number of players joining the "DUST514" channel listed in the channel-join dialogue, and trying to see if Dust players are online, but there is no way for dust players to join the channel.

I DID see there was a popup asking PS3 players to reboot, I'm not sure if that fixed the issue? (don't have a PS3 handy to test!) Any chance you can put something in the MOTD of both channels letting people know what's happening?

Thanks!!
I Love Lesbians
Doomheim
#44 - 2013-01-10 22:19:57 UTC
Could we not get DUST messages in the eve client please? Locks up the game for information about dust players having to restart their PS3. Not really what I say useful information.
Esrevid Nekkeg
Justified and Ancient
#45 - 2013-01-10 23:18:22 UTC
Quote:
We have been made aware of some issues after the migration of DUST onto TQ and have rectified these problems. We highly recommend that you restart your PS3 client fully (this applies to DUST 514 players only). Please check the Announcements and Events forum section of the Dust 514 forums for further details.
I realy don't have a problem with pop-ups aimed solely at Dust 514 players in EvE. What I do have a problem with is the fact that this pop-up stole focus and was persistend. In other words, it locked up the entire UI until interacted with. And that can be a real problem in EvE.

Now I do understand that this linking between Dust 514 and EvE is just the first step, and that many steps have to be taken to reach a full link between the two games. However, I would urge you to please keep negative effects of this link (like locking up the UI) to an absolute minimum. Especialy for the vast group of EvE players that are not involved in FW, and thus, at this time, not involved with Dust 514.

Here I used to have a sig of our old Camper in space. Now it is disregarded as being the wrong format. Looking out the window I see one thing: Nothing wrong with the format of our Camper! Silly CCP......
Skalle Pande
Teknisk Forlag
#46 - 2013-01-10 23:27:40 UTC
Not part of FW, and not whining about not being part of the planet-bombing, just curious: The FAQ says
Quote:
You can travel to one of the systems where a NPC Mercenary corporation is stationed and talk to them in local. They can be found in the following systems:

Ana, Marthia, Kothe, Soshin, Saikanen, Autama, Jolia, Adacyne, Halle, Egbonbet, Javrendei, Kasrasi, Mesokel, Etav, Gosalav, Charra, Sahdil, Paye, Iro, Mimen, Tidacha, Dihra, Mastakomon, Vouskiaho, Vahunomi, Purjola, Usi, Inoue, Oshaima, Vuorrassi, Atai, Croleur, Ney, Dodenvale, Estene, Uphene, Odixie, Torvi, Ommare, Klaevik, Eldjaerin, Geffur, Dantbeinn, Amo, Freatlidur, Sist, Rokofur, Offugen

These systems will correspond to the various DUST merc NPC corps that characters joined upon creation


OK - so I went to some of these systems, and yet no signs of infantry. In fact no signs of FW. Will DUST mercs only be visible in local if you are doing FW? And the DUST corps, will they have offices at stations like EVE corps, or are they only accessible via personal communication in local?
Spectre Wolf
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#47 - 2013-01-11 00:32:18 UTC
Is this on PC yet??? Sad
Helena Russell Makanen
DRRUSSEL
#48 - 2013-01-11 00:46:31 UTC
I Love Lesbians wrote:
Could we not get DUST messages in the eve client please? Locks up the game for information about dust players having to restart their PS3. Not really what I say useful information.


This. ^^ In addition how can I remove them from my local channel and station list.

I am one of the unfortunate Eve players who had them dumped in my home system/station. The station list is clogged with masses of them and the local is frustrating everyone (them also) due to two totally different games being talked about in one channel.

"If a miner needs to go to the bathroom, for instance, I ask that they dock up first, or at the very least ask the Supreme Protector for permission to go."  -  James 315 - aka - the miner bumper

Montykoro Daymaku
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2013-01-11 01:20:20 UTC
Spectre Wolf wrote:
Is this on PC yet??? Sad


Keep dreaming...
Deiniol Riker
Institute of High Energy Physics
#50 - 2013-01-11 01:45:33 UTC
Helena Russell Makanen wrote:
I Love Lesbians wrote:
Could we not get DUST messages in the eve client please? Locks up the game for information about dust players having to restart their PS3. Not really what I say useful information.


This. ^^ In addition how can I remove them from my local channel and station list.

I am one of the unfortunate Eve players who had them dumped in my home system/station. The station list is clogged with masses of them and the local is frustrating everyone (them also) due to two totally different games being talked about in one channel.


+1

Although I am able to un-check the 'Show Infantry' in the Membership Settings for the local channel, it will temporarily clear the infantry from the membership list, then as they chat in local again they are added back and shown in the membership list again.

These players do not affect my game play and I have a better use for local. The un-checked 'Show Infantry' should permanently block them from showing up in local.
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#51 - 2013-01-11 01:53:08 UTC
Haifisch Zahne wrote:
From the Dust 514 FAQ: "If the EVE capsuleer is not a member of FW he will not be able to connect to the district or receive strike requests at all."


Well, I am glad that I have told all my PS3 playing friends (and relatives!) to try Dust 514 during the closed beta.

And, for what? I won't eve be able to even see what it is about from the Eve side. At all.

Thanks CCP! Again.


Join FW and you'll be set.
It's the best part of eve anyway.

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Hellen Bach
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#52 - 2013-01-11 01:53:34 UTC
Skalle Pande wrote:
Not part of FW, and not whining about not being part of the planet-bombing, just curious: The FAQ says
Quote:
You can travel to one of the systems where a NPC Mercenary corporation is stationed and talk to them in local. They can be found in the following systems:

Ana, Marthia, Kothe, Soshin, Saikanen, Autama, Jolia, Adacyne, Halle, Egbonbet, Javrendei, Kasrasi, Mesokel, Etav, Gosalav, Charra, Sahdil, Paye, Iro, Mimen, Tidacha, Dihra, Mastakomon, Vouskiaho, Vahunomi, Purjola, Usi, Inoue, Oshaima, Vuorrassi, Atai, Croleur, Ney, Dodenvale, Estene, Uphene, Odixie, Torvi, Ommare, Klaevik, Eldjaerin, Geffur, Dantbeinn, Amo, Freatlidur, Sist, Rokofur, Offugen

These systems will correspond to the various DUST merc NPC corps that characters joined upon creation


OK - so I went to some of these systems, and yet no signs of infantry. In fact no signs of FW. Will DUST mercs only be visible in local if you are doing FW? And the DUST corps, will they have offices at stations like EVE corps, or are they only accessible via personal communication in local?



hm likewise. I Joined FW from NPC corp earlier today to poke around and see what these dusties are about and what strange noises they would make in local. I travelled to a few of the systems above but didn't see a single one of them.

Is there a hub system the dusties have gravitated to for each faction?
Nightlund Audeles
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#53 - 2013-01-11 02:14:01 UTC
The only trouble I can see now is last night my Maulus was cap stable when I logged off. When I logged in today it shows my cap will be gone in 40 seconds. However, when I fly with my MWD on my cap loses only one bar and that is it. Clearly that is a bug that needs to be looked at as it might cause a problem with future ship fitting.
Haifisch Zahne
Hraka Manufacture GmbH
#54 - 2013-01-11 05:01:21 UTC
I've noticed a few times during a mission that de-activating a module right before it would come around to its next cycle, the module would stick for awhile just flashing red. It flashes longer than usual to de-activate (and not having re-activated). This might happen when the rat is destroyed, as this would be when I normally de-activate early-- though I am not convinced of this yet.
Haifisch Zahne
Hraka Manufacture GmbH
#55 - 2013-01-11 05:36:18 UTC
I apologize. I didn't realize I had to spell out obvious points. To adults.

But, in my mind, if a company comes out with some "ground-breaking" new game, one would want its players, and not just a few of them, to become excited and involved. From the start.

I use to be the former. I am now neither.



Tahnil wrote:
On top: it‘s the very FIRST iteration of the EVE-Dust Link, with Dust only being Closed Beta at the moment. Keep cool. Mine Veldspar. Shoot red crosses. But please don‘t whine if the link doesn‘t affect you at the moment.
Haifisch Zahne
Hraka Manufacture GmbH
#56 - 2013-01-11 05:38:21 UTC
Yes, that is right. It is "my fault" that I am not a member of FW.

I forgot, if I do not do what you and CCP want me to do with my time in this game, it is my fault.

I will immediately observe your wishes.



Nightlund Audeles wrote:
Haifisch Zahne wrote:
From the Dust 514 FAQ: "If the EVE capsuleer is not a member of FW he will not be able to connect to the district or receive strike requests at all."


Well, I am glad that I have told all my PS3 playing friends (and relatives!) to try Dust 514 during the closed beta.

And, for what? I won't eve be able to even see what it is about from the Eve side. At all.

Thanks CCP! Again.




So from what I gather (and I could be wrong) is you are not a part of FW? Who's fault is that now? Ah yes CCP's and not your own. It has been made clear for a while now that you need to be in FW for this.
Haifisch Zahne
Hraka Manufacture GmbH
#57 - 2013-01-11 05:40:33 UTC
Yes, we all need to follow your wishes.


IbanezLaney wrote:
Haifisch Zahne wrote:
From the Dust 514 FAQ: "If the EVE capsuleer is not a member of FW he will not be able to connect to the district or receive strike requests at all."


Well, I am glad that I have told all my PS3 playing friends (and relatives!) to try Dust 514 during the closed beta.

And, for what? I won't eve be able to even see what it is about from the Eve side. At all.

Thanks CCP! Again.


Join FW and you'll be set.
It's the best part of eve anyway.
Nightlund Audeles
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#58 - 2013-01-11 07:01:45 UTC
Haifisch Zahne wrote:
Yes, that is right. It is "my fault" that I am not a member of FW.

I forgot, if I do not do what you and CCP want me to do with my time in this game, it is my fault.

I will immediately observe your wishes.



Nightlund Audeles wrote:
Haifisch Zahne wrote:
From the Dust 514 FAQ: "If the EVE capsuleer is not a member of FW he will not be able to connect to the district or receive strike requests at all."


Well, I am glad that I have told all my PS3 playing friends (and relatives!) to try Dust 514 during the closed beta.

And, for what? I won't eve be able to even see what it is about from the Eve side. At all.

Thanks CCP! Again.




So from what I gather (and I could be wrong) is you are not a part of FW? Who's fault is that now? Ah yes CCP's and not your own. It has been made clear for a while now that you need to be in FW for this.




I am glad you can see the way it should be. If in fact you are being sarcastic, you need to work on it. Further more you do need to come to terms with the fact of what DUST 514 is and how much of a vital role it is in lowsec and it has no business in highsec at all. I am sure you can cease with the QQ and move on. If you cannot then I wish you luck with whatever it is you wish to do.
Dareth Astrar
Astrar Logistics and Engineering
#59 - 2013-01-11 09:28:07 UTC
Within minutes of being connected this morning, the game froze, and I was eventually given the dreaded socket error, and had to restart the game client.
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#60 - 2013-01-11 09:57:47 UTC
OK, so we have begun recruiting Dustmen into our corp. This invalidates all whiners, above. Suck it up and move on.

Firstly.
I believe they get our mails - this will become super-annoying for them when;

From: Trinkets friend
To: Sudden Buggery
Re: Some inane EVE-raleted crudola

Dear dudes, today i blazed a roid. i made trit.

Ergo, a radio button or other mechanism of mailing to Dust guys only, would be awesome at keeping info that is NOT needed by the Dust guys corralled into the Eve experience, and vice versa. This will stop Dust players wondering WTF kind of cray-cray drugs we are on wheen we start swapping cat pictures and so on.

Second.
We have them on our TS3, which is besides the point, and it's awesome. Meeting new people, different gamer nerds, some who have no idea about EVE. Others have subbed EVE accounts to OB for their Dust dudes. Yes, cross-platform dualboxing.

However, I believe that the Dustmen cannot do more than see the corp info screen and mails, and member list. They therefore cannot see corp bulletins. This means, potentially, I have to put our comms details in the corp information screen - which will lead to all sorrts of pains in the buttocks as people come on to the comms to play pr0n musak at us at top volume.

I would like to see Corp Bulletins put into the Dust client so we can communicate effectively via this mechanism with Dustmen as well as capsuleers.

Third.
Awesome, awesome, awesome!

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