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New Eden Trade Group - Scammers or Legitimate Businessmen? You be the judge.
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The Fukuzawa
Doomheim
#41 - 2013-01-10 23:20:18 UTC
So i take it you wont be explaining to me how a company share is the same as a loan?
Alex Grison
Grison Universal
#42 - 2013-01-10 23:23:25 UTC
The Fukuzawa wrote:
So i take it you wont be explaining to me how a company share is the same as a loan?





A share of a company is not the same as a loan.

But a company issues Bonds or shares for the same reason which is to raise capital because they don't have enough money.

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The Fukuzawa
Doomheim
#43 - 2013-01-10 23:30:33 UTC  |  Edited by: The Fukuzawa
Alex Grison wrote:
The Fukuzawa wrote:
So i take it you wont be explaining to me how a company share is the same as a loan?





A share of a company is not the same as a loan.

But a company issues Bonds or shares for the same reason which is to raise capital because they don't have enough money.



Right, i think i know a bit more about business then you do bub.


If you continue to follow what my corp does in MD you will see that the second part of your post is inaccurate.
Alex Grison
Grison Universal
#44 - 2013-01-10 23:39:07 UTC
The Fukuzawa wrote:
Alex Grison wrote:
The Fukuzawa wrote:
So i take it you wont be explaining to me how a company share is the same as a loan?





A share of a company is not the same as a loan.

But a company issues Bonds or shares for the same reason which is to raise capital because they don't have enough money.



Right, i think i know a bit more about business then you do bub.


If you continue to follow what my corp does in MD you will see that the second part of your post is inaccurate.


you are free to think as you wish

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Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#45 - 2013-01-10 23:41:38 UTC
Both are utterly meaningless in Eve, and the fancy equivalents of an iou.

Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal
Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#46 - 2013-01-10 23:44:12 UTC
The Fukuzawa wrote:
If you continue to follow what my corp does in MD you will see that the second part of your post is inaccurate.


No, he's exactly right. They raise capital until their projected returns on that additional capital no longer outweigh the cost of acquiring it. The selection of issuing bonds or creating additional shares comes down to local regulatory and tax treatment of different investment vehicles.

Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal
Alex Grison
Grison Universal
#47 - 2013-01-10 23:44:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Alex Grison
Varius Xeral wrote:
Both are utterly meaningless in Eve, and the fancy equivalents of an iou.



UDDERLY MEANINGLESS

MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

ba dum tshhhhhhh

also. my investment vehicle goes

VROOOOOOOOOOOOOOWHOOOSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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The Fukuzawa
Doomheim
#48 - 2013-01-11 00:00:04 UTC
We are just going to use the word "loan" for now on...
Alex Grison
Grison Universal
#49 - 2013-01-11 00:10:25 UTC
The Fukuzawa wrote:
We are just going to use the word "loan" for now on...


this changes nothing.

If you guys are already successful why do you need to take out a loan?

Also if you want to have any chance at real investors you will provide a full API key. Including market orders, transactions and wallet info.

yes
The Fukuzawa
Doomheim
#50 - 2013-01-11 00:35:51 UTC
Alex Grison wrote:
The Fukuzawa wrote:
We are just going to use the word "loan" for now on...


this changes nothing.

If you guys are already successful why do you need to take out a loan?

Also if you want to have any chance at real investors you will provide a full API key. Including market orders, transactions and wallet info.


No **** Alex...

There will be no API released. We have "market gems" to protect.

There will be no business plan released. Im not going to lend any value to the cynical Market Discussion forum.

There will be full collateral provided to trusted 3rd parties for secured loan requests.

If players want to do business with us great, if not great.

Either way we will reach our market goal, we will be a common name in game, and will have a large footprint in the market.

That is all.
Alex Grison
Grison Universal
#51 - 2013-01-11 00:37:36 UTC
The Fukuzawa wrote:
Alex Grison wrote:
The Fukuzawa wrote:
We are just going to use the word "loan" for now on...


this changes nothing.

If you guys are already successful why do you need to take out a loan?

Also if you want to have any chance at real investors you will provide a full API key. Including market orders, transactions and wallet info.


No **** Alex...

There will be no API released. We have "market gems" to protect.

There will be no business plan released. Im not going to lend any value to the cynical Market Discussion forum.

There will be full collateral provided to trusted 3rd parties for secured loan requests.

If players want to do business with us great, if not great.

Either way we will reach our market goal, we will be a common name in game, and will have a large footprint in the market.

That is all.



oh I like this guy.

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Candy Oshea
Techfree Investment Group
#52 - 2013-01-11 00:41:48 UTC
The Fukuzawa wrote:

There will be no business plan released. Im not going to lend any value to the cynical Market Discussion forum.


Its time.

iCandy  - I have accidently swallowed some Scrabble tiles, my next shit could spell disaster!
Alex Grison
Grison Universal
#53 - 2013-01-11 00:42:52 UTC
Candy Oshea wrote:
The Fukuzawa wrote:

There will be no business plan released. Im not going to lend any value to the cynical Market Discussion forum.


Its time.

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Primicerius
#54 - 2013-01-11 04:48:23 UTC
/thread of the year
Emma d'Acques
Doomheim
#55 - 2013-01-11 06:40:43 UTC
The Fukuzawa wrote:


No **** Alex...

There will be no API released. We have "market gems" to protect.

There will be no business plan released. Im not going to lend any value to the cynical Market Discussion forum.

There will be full collateral provided to trusted 3rd parties for secured loan requests.

If players want to do business with us great, if not great.

Either way we will reach our market goal, we will be a common name in game, and will have a large footprint in the market.

That is all.



Where's Jerry Pepridge when you need him?
Seriously, what happened to Pepridge? This would be the kind of investment he was always looking for.

@The Fukuzawa: I thank you Sir, for making my morning this fun, now I feel like nothing can go wrong today!

I'm not totally useless, I can be used as a bad example.
Cooyaw
State War Academy
Caldari State
#56 - 2013-01-24 03:12:29 UTC
Necro!!!!!!! I miss the Charlie brown voices..... Womp Womp Womp Womp Womp Womp Womp
Alex Grison
Grison Universal
#57 - 2013-01-24 04:13:47 UTC
Cooyaw wrote:
Necro!!!!!!! I miss the Charlie brown voices..... Womp Womp Womp Womp Womp Womp Womp



ITS TIME FOR SOME DUB... WAAA WAAA DERDERDERDER DYEYEDYEDYEYEDE YAAAAAAA GRRRRGRR GUG-GUG YAAA

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Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
#58 - 2013-01-24 06:11:36 UTC
Emma d'Acques wrote:

Where's Jerry Pepridge when you need him?
Seriously, what happened to Pepridge? This would be the kind of investment he was always looking for.


I think the more important question is how are you and how to you know me.

i biomass the original jerry, then some buttsore MD guy made the character and stole the name. so i couldn't be bothered making a new toon until now.

@JerryTPepridge
Claire Coffee
Coffee Inc
#59 - 2013-01-24 18:02:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Claire Coffee
Offtopic:

... I mean, alright... Fellaz got their "way" of doing business. Like it or not. Scam or not.

But Mr. Grison, do you have to stick your nose in and apply your idiotic behavior to EVERY business endeavour on the forums?
This is basicly a question, so "yes" or "no" will do. Save your mindset for someone more patient.

Every time I get a slight hint of your avatar being around I know I'm going to read some biased sceptical diarrhea or behold the 12y/o mumbling with several Economics 101 terms involved. I doubt that anyone is interested in it.

[b]DRINK COFFEE Do stupid things Faster with More Energy[/b]
Alex Grison
Grison Universal
#60 - 2013-01-24 18:24:35 UTC
Claire Coffee wrote:
Offtopic:

... I mean, alright... Fellaz got their "way" of doing business. Like it or not. Scam or not.

But Mr. Grison, do you have to stick your nose in and apply your idiotic behavior to EVERY business endeavour on the forums?
This is basicly a question, so "yes" or "no" will do. Save your mindset for someone more patient.

Every time I get a slight hint of your avatar being around I know I'm going to read some biased sceptical diarrhea or behold the 12y/o mumbling with several Economics 101 terms involved. I doubt that anyone is interested in it.


Yes :D

And I've never taken Economics 101 I don't like school much.

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