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Highsec, Casual or Hardcore?

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Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#81 - 2011-10-24 18:56:38 UTC
Skunk Gracklaw wrote:
Weaselior wrote:
this doesn't even make sense what are you just saying

He's arguing in another thread that Eve is just like real life so don't spend too much time trying to make sense of his posts


There is non. As in real life there is no sense only an illusion which you create yourself / not likely or you adapt to illusion given.

Stay strong in your belief since thats the only thing which defines you .
Vaffel Junior
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#82 - 2011-10-24 18:57:57 UTC
Protip to ice miners.....
Hire PL to attack goons homeland.. Twisted
Karadion
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#83 - 2011-10-24 18:59:27 UTC
Vaffel Junior wrote:
Protip to ice miners.....
Hire PL to attack goons homeland.. Twisted
People have tried and failed. What do you expect to be any different now?
Skunk Gracklaw
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#84 - 2011-10-24 19:00:13 UTC
Vaffel Junior wrote:
Protip to ice miners.....
Hire PL to attack goons homeland.. Twisted

PL tried that over the summer. It didn't work out too well for them.
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#85 - 2011-10-24 19:05:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Weaselior
Vaffel Junior wrote:
Protip to ice miners.....
Hire PL to attack goons homeland.. Twisted


vfk billy merc ice miners always get his theirs, coming August, (year undefined)

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Vaffel Junior
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#86 - 2011-10-24 19:06:37 UTC
Skunk Gracklaw wrote:
Vaffel Junior wrote:
Protip to ice miners.....
Hire PL to attack goons homeland.. Twisted

PL tried that over the summer. It didn't work out too well for them.

Shadoo was on vacation then Blink
Razzor Death
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#87 - 2011-10-24 19:08:45 UTC
Battle On wrote:
miners like myself are just casual gamers that afk-mine


I can't believe you put so many words in such a terrible troll
Karadion
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#88 - 2011-10-24 19:09:47 UTC
Vaffel Junior wrote:
Skunk Gracklaw wrote:
Vaffel Junior wrote:
Protip to ice miners.....
Hire PL to attack goons homeland.. Twisted

PL tried that over the summer. It didn't work out too well for them.

Shadoo was on vacation then Blink
He was not. Besides we set up like 10 **** cages preventing the titans from being useful on the field and holding 800 goons and allies constantly for a week. The operation was a HUGE failure for PL/IRC/WN/etc.
Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#89 - 2011-10-24 19:12:25 UTC
Battle On wrote:
Since a few day, Goonswarm Federation has been really active in Hentogaira. they are podding every ice miner there is and they now they reached their ultimate goal: http://goonfleet.net/miners/. it seems to me they are now officially a maffia gank that rips people off for money.

250mill for 1 character just to mine ice. this is just perfect. many miners like myself are just casual gamers that afk-mine when doing some work. we dont make 250mill just to be able to mine. if we wanna make 250mill we should chance to hardcore mode and mine ALOT before reaching the 250mill.

also, its just too easy to gank a miner. i just saw a mackinaw get shot by a Brutix. this mean that a 15-30mill worth ship just ganked a 150mill worth ship, thats just outrages. i think ccp should do something about this since its just crazy that you can so easily pop a miner. concord pops up just too late to stop the ganker from killing the miner, which just sucks.

the reaction time of concord is about 3-5 seconds, more then enough time to kill a miner in a brutix. yes, the ganker gets shot, but for a nullsec thug is 15-30mill nothing. they do 1 anomoly and get raped. also their concord standing is -5.0 so they can enter highsec. there are people that killed 10+ miners in highsec and still continue raping them since they can enter highsec at all time. why? why dont they get killed when trying to go to highsec?

i think this whole "raping the miners" thing is getting all out of control, highsec used to be a safe heaven for casual gamers where we could just do whatever we like without worrying about nullsec/lowsec thugs that ruin people's eve experience. why cant these people go back to nullsec to change things there instead of raping us? dont they have better things to do then kill the eve economy?

so whats your opinion about this? what advice do you have for all those miners out there?


In what I'm concerned I used to mine some stuff afk while doing serious business in null (aka pew pew)

Now anomalies got nerfed and my income is just crap since I don't have the billions for spec or something alike, and then I can't put my miner doing some stuff to cover my losses (mostly clone insurance and ammo other stuff the insurance +reimbursement doesn't cover

This just means I play less, and pew pew even less because the time I'm on line I spend it grinding mostly.

Ganking is part of the game, I'm ok with that. It's up to people to reinforce/protect their own assets but has some people here I'm not in front of my computer all day and this is becoming really annoying for my fun in game indirectly so, rather than grind for hours just for some isk, I spend more on playing other stuff where I have fun for sure for the time I can aloud to spend playing, meaning I pew pew less and getting bored more easily than ever when I'm connected.
Vaffel Junior
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#90 - 2011-10-24 19:13:54 UTC
Karadion wrote:
Vaffel Junior wrote:
Skunk Gracklaw wrote:
Vaffel Junior wrote:
Protip to ice miners.....
Hire PL to attack goons homeland.. Twisted

PL tried that over the summer. It didn't work out too well for them.

Shadoo was on vacation then Blink
He was not. Besides we set up like 10 **** cages preventing the titans from being useful on the field and holding 800 goons and allies constantly for a week. The operation was a HUGE failure for PL/IRC/WN/etc.


So.... You are saying that PL cant hurt you ? Cool
Karadion
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#91 - 2011-10-24 19:16:19 UTC
Vaffel Junior wrote:
Karadion wrote:
Vaffel Junior wrote:
Skunk Gracklaw wrote:
Vaffel Junior wrote:
Protip to ice miners.....
Hire PL to attack goons homeland.. Twisted

PL tried that over the summer. It didn't work out too well for them.

Shadoo was on vacation then Blink
He was not. Besides we set up like 10 **** cages preventing the titans from being useful on the field and holding 800 goons and allies constantly for a week. The operation was a HUGE failure for PL/IRC/WN/etc.


So.... You are saying that PL cant hurt you ? Cool

Currently at the moment, they can hotdrop on top of us with 70 titans or whatever they're fielding against a bunch of maelstroms but I think they fear the welpfleet more so they stopped doing hotdrops.
Skunk Gracklaw
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#92 - 2011-10-24 19:16:55 UTC
Vaffel Junior wrote:
Karadion wrote:
Vaffel Junior wrote:
Skunk Gracklaw wrote:
Vaffel Junior wrote:
Protip to ice miners.....
Hire PL to attack goons homeland.. Twisted

PL tried that over the summer. It didn't work out too well for them.

Shadoo was on vacation then Blink
He was not. Besides we set up like 10 **** cages preventing the titans from being useful on the field and holding 800 goons and allies constantly for a week. The operation was a HUGE failure for PL/IRC/WN/etc.


So.... You are saying that PL cant hurt you ? Cool

If all of PL got behind the effort I'm sure they could but if it's just bmerc and the "mad about goons" contingent...well August has come and gone
Tanya Fox
Doomheim
#93 - 2011-10-24 19:31:01 UTC
Skunk Gracklaw wrote:
Vaffel Junior wrote:

So.... You are saying that PL cant hurt you ? Cool

If all of PL got behind the effort I'm sure they could but if it's just bmerc and the "mad about goons" contingent...well August has come and gone




August has come and gone?

Sounds like a bit of a challenge to me, will have to watch this space, could be interesting.


But the Goons probably have spies in your corps anyway, they sometime have recruiters working from inside opportunist recruiters probably fits it better.
Cpt Fina
Perkone
Caldari State
#94 - 2011-10-24 20:24:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Cpt Fina
Worst case scenario – CCP buffs Concord response times once again and effectively displays to the community that one of the core fundamental principles of the game is just for show.

Best case scenario – Even tho Eve loose some ice-miner subscribers, CCP stay the course and consolidates their and our notion of Eve as a "harsh and dark universe".

If their priciple of "no space is safe" only applies when times are rosy and when nobody puts it to the test – like the goons currently are doing – then it stops being a principle and becomes an empty salespitch.
Tanya Fox
Doomheim
#95 - 2011-10-24 20:30:28 UTC
Cpt Fina wrote:
Worst case scenario – CCP buffs Concord response times once again and effectively displays to the community that one of the core fundamental principles of the game is just for show.

Best case scenario – Even tho Eve loose some ice-miner subscribers, CCP stay the course and consolidates their and our notion of Eve as a "harsh and dark universe".

If their priciple of "no space is safe" only applies when times are rosy and when nobody puts it to the test – like the goons currently are doing – then it stops being a principle and becomes an empty salespitch.




So you think the Goons are just testing CCP's resolve.

Find that hard to believe.
Cpt Fina
Perkone
Caldari State
#96 - 2011-10-24 20:37:18 UTC
Tanya Fox wrote:
So you think the Goons are just testing CCP's resolve.

Find that hard to believe.



I said that CCPs resolve is being tested. I never said wether or not this is the aim of goonswarm.
Skeith Oumis
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#97 - 2011-10-24 21:21:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Skeith Oumis
If you can't individually afford amnesty, there are corporation plans available. Pricing is by corp size, and is discounted over individual prices. I just only have a few corp slots left (At the moment 3 small, or one medium size corp).

If you're not in a corp, and can't afford amnesty, well... maybe time to run some missions?
Russell Casey
Doomheim
#98 - 2011-10-24 21:28:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Russell Casey
Karadion wrote:
Florestan Bronstein wrote:
do you also use bankofamerica.tk for your online banking?


there are goonfleet.net, goonauth.com and goonfleet.com

one is real, two are fake

idiots.

They're all real.


I was there.

By the way, everyone's been complaining for years that mining was too boring----now there's some excitement to it.
Barbelo Valentinian
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#99 - 2011-10-24 22:23:55 UTC
Bravo OP, you really got them all going. Definitely a 8/10 for me.

Minus 2 points for it being just a little bit too obvious that your psychology really isn't that of a carebear.

It's like watching a hairy cross-dresser with manly calves and big feet.
Karadion
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#100 - 2011-10-24 22:43:19 UTC
Russell Casey wrote:
Karadion wrote:
Florestan Bronstein wrote:
do you also use bankofamerica.tk for your online banking?


there are goonfleet.net, goonauth.com and goonfleet.com

one is real, two are fake

idiots.

They're all real.


I was there.

By the way, everyone's been complaining for years that mining was too boring----now there's some excitement to it.
Because we're doing the ganking and the miners are doing the whining which makes it fun? Yep I agree.