Warfare & Tactics

you undock and fight. Fleets are more time consuming unless you are in a larger corp.

Trying to assemble a big fleet, and then trying to get a fight is usually how nullsec people approach FW. Big fleets require a lot of assembly time, and require a similar sized opponent, which also takes a lot of time.

FW is ideal for 1-10 people in gang. Forms up quickly, responds quickly, and lots more opportunities for fights. If you can't get a fight in your 8 man fleet, you simple split up in two gangs of 4 and increase your odds.

However, those who are used to 'assemble the blob', will find it more difficult to find fight, apart from some lucky ganks.

Good Sir;

In the Siseide/Dal area there is lots of fighting when the server passes 40,000. I don't fight much, but I get shot at about every 10 minutes or so while plexing. I see lots of pods, exiting Dal like neutrinos from a nova.

your humble servent
SeaSaw

How is it possible for FW fleets to be more time consuming than nullsec fleets?

Depends on the FC, overly cautious FCs tend to make it so that fights either take hours leading up to them, or that they don't happen at all. I recall a certain FW FC that refused to fight a BC fleet with their BS+logi fleet and then asked that the BC fleet move off a regional gate ("Jump into us!", "No you!"). The BC fleet FC was bored to tears, and obliged. Balls were still deep inside the chest of the BS fleet FC so the fight didn't "happen" for another hour when the BS fleet finally came and RnK bridge in a ton of T3's to wreck the BS fleet (BC fleet warped away and was safe at a pos and just watched the BS fleet die when trying to run away), neither FW militia got a fight after so much time investment waiting around (both sides ran or died trying), so moral of the story is find a FC with balls that a) knows what they are doing (somewhat), and b) is willing to risk losing a fleet if it means getting a good fight, and doesn't mind welping in the pursuit of pew pew.


A lot of time is wasted when two militias have eyes in eachothers home systems and they play the "reship to counter enemy gang 100% or don't fight" game. Before you know it you've been reshipping or refusing to jump into each other for an hour or more. The new FW system gets away from a lot of this, because plexing now creates a sense of urgency so people don't bore both their fleet and the enemy gang to death by trying to get the perfect fleet comp to counter the enemy gang, but it can still happen. Be thankful that there is meaning to plex fighting now because it creates lots of frequent fights compared to hours sitting around waiting for the other gang or your FC to engage prior to inferno.

where did i say that?

How big are your fleets and what is the fleet comp you are running? Three hours is an awefully long time to get a fight that is anti climatic.

Since the Retribution Expansion, I have increased my kills which average 100/month to 200 for the month of December and will likely be the same for January. I have a healthier number of solo and/or 1v2 or 1v3 encounters as well due to Tiercide and plexing changes. This, despite the fact that I never considered myself someone who was eager to find solo fights before Retribution. This was because the target was most likely 70KM off the accel gate and would fly nano/shield stuff thus already dictating range.

Within the warzone, you can definitely find small gang fights of 3-8 easily. You increase your odds of finding a fight if you have good intel and know your enemies well. At this point into the game, I've gathered fairly solid intel on most opposing militia corps as well as the local pirate corps. I know who will give me a fair fight, who is simply baiting, who will run, and who just wants to farm.