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Non-FW Dust Development?

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ICBMSZ
Hardpoint Industries
#1 - 2013-01-10 17:41:58 UTC  |  Edited by: ICBMSZ
I'm very excited for the implementation of the Dust-514 world into Eve, and I can't wait to nuke some knobs. But here is my question/concern: Will there be any future opportunity for non-FW pilots to get involved in any Dust-514 wars?

Per the FAQ: "The proportion of districts owned by each side in a FW system increases or decreases the number of Victory Points required to make that system vulnerable. Each fully controlled planet will shift the balance by 12.5%, and there can be up to four planets in a system which means a maximum shift of 50% VP. Having a well organized and successful Dust mercenary corp working for your faction can thus shift the balance quite substantially. Until we enable ISK transfer between EVE and Dust the only way you can directly assist your mercenaries is through orbital bombardment."

Also: "In order to provide support in the form of orbital bombardment, the EVE capsuleer must be enrolled in FW. He will then be able to provide support for the team that's fighting on behalf of his faction (or allied faction) in corporation battles. If the EVE capsuleer is not a member of FW he will not be able to connect to the district or receive strike requests at all." Evil

I understand the lore behind FW and Dust, I've read Templar One (Great book). I personally don't want to fly in FW. So will there be future development for null sec Dust pvp and null pilot involvement?

TLDNR: Want to bombard console players, no option for non-FW pilots. Don't want to do FW. Will there be future null sec Dust development?
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#2 - 2013-01-10 17:43:48 UTC
ICBMSZ wrote:
I'm very excited for the implementation of the Dust-514 world into Eve, and I can't wait to nuke some knobs. But here is my question/concern: Will there be any future opportunity for non-FW pilots to get involved in any Dust-514 wars?

Per the FAQ: "The proportion of districts owned by each side in a FW system increases or decreases the number of Victory Points required to make that system vulnerable. Each fully controlled planet will shift the balance by 12.5%, and there can be up to four planets in a system which means a maximum shift of 50% VP. Having a well organized and successful Dust mercenary corp working for your faction can thus shift the balance quite substantially. Until we enable ISK transfer between EVE and Dust the only way you can directly assist your mercenaries is through orbital bombardment."

Also: "In order to provide support in the form of orbital bombardment, the EVE capsuleer must be enrolled in FW. He will then be able to provide support for the team that's fighting on behalf of his faction (or allied faction) in corporation battles. If the EVE capsuleer is not a member of FW he will not be able to connect to the district or receive strike requests at all." Evil

I understand the lore behind FW and Dust, I've read Templar One (Great book). I personally don't want to fly in FW. So will there be future development for null sec Dust pvp and null pilot involvement?

TLDNR: Want to bombard console players, no option for non-FW pilots. Don't want to do FW. Will there be future null sec Dust development?



Is reading too hard? Oops



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ICBMSZ
Hardpoint Industries
#3 - 2013-01-10 17:48:21 UTC
Beekeeper Bob wrote:


Is reading too hard? Oops




A productive comment indeed.
Feer Truelight
#4 - 2013-01-10 17:58:13 UTC
So basically you want to 0WN other players but prefer safety for yourself and don't want to get 0WN3D?

How disgusting.

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Rain6639
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#5 - 2013-01-10 18:02:02 UTC
Feer Truelight wrote:
So basically you want to 0WN other players but prefer safety for yourself and don't want to get 0WN3D?

How disgusting.


well yeah. they're calling for bombardment. if there's a lack of support in that department, that's what it will take to get

<--this player

to play the role of air strike for the sake of console kiddies
Rengerel en Distel
#6 - 2013-01-10 18:03:12 UTC
Was pretty sure they said FW would be the starting point, and it would move outside that once the kinks were worked out. I don't believe it will ever move to high sec though, but would move to null eventually.

With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#7 - 2013-01-10 18:07:54 UTC
even FW has no player contracts yet. Its all NPC driven as far as i understand. Once they are there it will be far more interesting.

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
Rain6639
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#8 - 2013-01-10 18:08:29 UTC
i'm sorry... am I the only person who pays to play this game
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#9 - 2013-01-10 18:11:05 UTC
ICBMSZ wrote:
I'm very excited for the implementation of the Dust-514 world into Eve, and I can't wait to nuke some knobs. But here is my question/concern: Will there be any future opportunity for non-FW pilots to get involved in any Dust-514 wars?

Per the FAQ: "The proportion of districts owned by each side in a FW system increases or decreases the number of Victory Points required to make that system vulnerable. Each fully controlled planet will shift the balance by 12.5%, and there can be up to four planets in a system which means a maximum shift of 50% VP. Having a well organized and successful Dust mercenary corp working for your faction can thus shift the balance quite substantially. Until we enable ISK transfer between EVE and Dust the only way you can directly assist your mercenaries is through orbital bombardment."

Also: "In order to provide support in the form of orbital bombardment, the EVE capsuleer must be enrolled in FW. He will then be able to provide support for the team that's fighting on behalf of his faction (or allied faction) in corporation battles. If the EVE capsuleer is not a member of FW he will not be able to connect to the district or receive strike requests at all." Evil

I understand the lore behind FW and Dust, I've read Templar One (Great book). I personally don't want to fly in FW. So will there be future development for null sec Dust pvp and null pilot involvement?

TLDNR: Want to bombard console players, no option for non-FW pilots. Don't want to do FW. Will there be future null sec Dust development?

Yes.

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#10 - 2013-01-10 18:12:34 UTC
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
Was pretty sure they said FW would be the starting point, and it would move outside that once the kinks were worked out. I don't believe it will ever move to high sec though, but would move to null eventually.

The original plan was for DUST battles in High Sec to be primarily NPC driven (read randomly generated battles). However that does not necessarily preclude the possibility of orbital bombardment.

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Naela Ambramotte
Doomheim
#11 - 2013-01-10 18:12:53 UTC
Did the fact that Dust is still in closed beta escape everyone?
Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#12 - 2013-01-10 18:27:49 UTC
In future

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ICBMSZ
Hardpoint Industries
#13 - 2013-01-10 18:36:58 UTC
Naela Ambramotte wrote:
Did the fact that Dust is still in closed beta escape everyone?


No it didn't, I just haven't actually read anywhere that they intended to expand it outside high/low sec. I'm definitely looking forward to what is coming.
Jess Maine
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-01-10 18:45:36 UTC
Naela Ambramotte wrote:
Did the fact that Dust is still in closed beta escape everyone?


Its Open BETA as of today.
CCP FoxFour
C C P
C C P Alliance
#15 - 2013-01-10 19:06:05 UTC
Jess Maine wrote:
Naela Ambramotte wrote:
Did the fact that Dust is still in closed beta escape everyone?


Its Open BETA as of today.


Still closed beta.

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CCP FoxFour
C C P
C C P Alliance
#16 - 2013-01-10 19:06:19 UTC
Akrasjel Lanate wrote:
In future


Indeed.

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Grey Azorria
Federation Industries
#17 - 2013-01-10 19:12:21 UTC
Jess Maine wrote:
Naela Ambramotte wrote:
Did the fact that Dust is still in closed beta escape everyone?


Its Open BETA as of today.

Nope, the 22nd is the best guess at the moment

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2013-01-10 21:59:52 UTC
Feer Truelight wrote:
So basically you want to 0WN other players but prefer safety for yourself and don't want to get 0WN3D?

How disgusting.

Yeah, because not wanting to join FW automatically means he wants complete safety. Roll

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#19 - 2013-01-10 22:52:53 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Feer Truelight wrote:
So basically you want to 0WN other players but prefer safety for yourself and don't want to get 0WN3D?

How disgusting.

Yeah, because not wanting to join FW automatically means he wants complete safety. Roll


Well the key problem with FW is that it denies you access to a good deal of the rest of hi sec.

If you are on the Gallente side you can't really make trading runs to Jita.

You can solve this by creating other characters specifically for FW (like this character).

You really don't need more than a million sp chracter to be effective in a group and if you are doing orbital bombardments, you'll be flying a destroyer anyways.

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Ginger Barbarella
#20 - 2013-01-10 22:56:22 UTC
CCP FoxFour wrote:
Jess Maine wrote:
Naela Ambramotte wrote:
Did the fact that Dust is still in closed beta escape everyone?


Its Open BETA as of today.


Still closed beta.


In name only. Go to PS3 store, buy Merc Pack, play DUST. There really isn't anything "closed" about that.

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