EVE General Discussion

No doubt.

And now I've got that damned song stuck in my head. Ganked by an earworm... Thank you EVER so much!

Yes, destroyers for orbital bombardment. Why do you ask? Because we want to be able to build up to bigger and better. If we started with Titans doing orbital bombardment and then added the others going down each time we added something it would be smaller.

This way we start with destroyers with small guns and next time we add bigger guns we can make it bigger and better.

Keep in mind our goal is to start with a small connection between the two games and build it up from that so we don't break anything, or break as little as possible.

Hope that helps answer why we went with destroyers first. :)

As black powder weapons are arguably the least advanced, I'll use the Thrasher to explain this.

A Thrasher can be fit with either 250mm or 280mm rounds, these rounds are far more advanced then anything you've experienced in your lives. At a range of approximately 40km and still be within optimal range. These bullets are at least a foot wide we don't know their length or contents but it's 18,000 years more advanced and full of technology developed for conflict in space. It's cheap to fit, efficient and fast but can die relatively quickly. Absolutely perfect for the role of bombarding a target with high explosives.

Maelstroms, another ship type that can be fit for the same role, cost the same as many, many thrashers, and require about 550 crew members. Thrashers require 30 according to evelopedia's numbers on non capsuleer ships, keep in mind capsuleers likely aren't the people that these weapons were devised for.

Military want to have effective, cheap, low staffed vehicles in order to ease a number of stresses on them. Especially when at any moment a flotilla of thousands of ships could descend upon them and obliterate them, totally. No hope of a rescue party for survivors.

So the Minmatar engineers find themselves at an impasse, build giant munitions for slow, cumbersome battleships that need to be supported by enter damned fleets.

They designed several munition types for the cannons of the thrasher and provided up graded software for the weapons. These rounds were much more accurate then previous designs with simple firing mechanisms. They likely have a smart tracking system that includes a computing system for easing the stresses during flight and detonating as it hits the ground.

Every other race in new Eden uses hugely more advanced weapon types. Technology far enough away from us, as we are from
The Amarr probably use a specialized crystal that emits microwaves or some other high energy wave our atmosphere doesn't filter properly.
Gallente probably use Insanely high energy plasma rounds for blasters or huge streamlined and intelligent rounds for their rail guns and the Caldari likely use the same thing.

Also take note, they aren't trying to destroy the facilities they fight over, these places are very valuable. They want to keep them around. So huge weaponry is a Terrible idea.

battleship and above with some kind of siege mod, say for 1 minute or so
dust bunnies have cannons on the ground that they can fire back at us

Make the thing work good first, then go bigger. Not that hard to figure out.

That said it would be awesome to fire 8 bus-sized projectiles into a planet

...as long as L and XL turrets can be dual use in industry as long distance "excavators".

Hmm looks like I'll have to log into Dust tonight and pop some dessies

A small turret in Eve, for projectiles ranges from 125mm to 200mm....that is a big hug ass gun from a grunt on the ground's perspective. Now if you had to wipe out a large hardened facility, then yeah 1400mm guns would be fine. But using 1400s or something in that size range for a skirmish you pretty much turn everyone into jelly in the area the shell hits.

Also go look at the relative size picture of the ships in Eve. You can find it on wikipedia. Look in the lower left hand corner (I think) they have a picture of the Eiffel tower to give you an idea of the size of the ships. In other words, the atron is pretty big. The volume an atron takes up is 22,500m3. Now, a sphere with that volume would have a radius of 18m, or would be 36 meters in diameter. To give this some perspective, go to an olympic sized pool and look down a 50 meter lane. That might be an idea of how "long" and atron is.

Well, at least someone would be able to setup a planetary surface strip mining operation in some cases. The hardest part, digging a huge hole in the ground, would already be well under way.

I think it would be something akin to the K-T event.