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Highsec, Casual or Hardcore?

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Karadion
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#61 - 2011-10-24 18:17:54 UTC
Teamosil wrote:
IMO it's lame that the most powerful corp in the game decided to dedicate themselves primarily to griefing newbies. Kind of pathetic IMO.
One of the reasons why we like doing it. Because it's pathetic, sad, and just straight up funny.
Brynhilda
Chimp Hoons Export and Expo Service
Scary Wormhole People
#62 - 2011-10-24 18:21:40 UTC
Teamosil wrote:
IMO it's lame that the most powerful corp in the game decided to dedicate themselves primarily to griefing newbies. Kind of pathetic IMO.


Oh, please. I'm sure you were a new kid in school and you got picked on. It also gauges intelligence a bit. Someone knew should be looking into the word of others and learn how mechanics work in this game.

Those that don't lose their miners to Battle Bestowers.

How may I drug you with drugs?
Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
#63 - 2011-10-24 18:28:33 UTC
So what if it's comparable to bullying kids at school? The OP was right that it was a mafiosa type operation.

Despite the fact that this may stop me mining ice for the moment I do have to applaud their initiative. Now, as a miner I have two choices; buckle under or do something about it.

What I won't be doing is whining about it.

So what if the price of ice goes up? Does that mean I have to continue mining or do I go into trading? Or do I do something about this mafia family who are offering protection?

Love this game, I do.

Pam:  I wonder what my name means in Welsh?Nessa: Why?
Skunk Gracklaw
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#64 - 2011-10-24 18:28:39 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
(Side note: If you don't want to get ganked, tank up and ice mine in a battle ship)

I would like to know how you're fitting ice harvesters in a battleship.
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#65 - 2011-10-24 18:29:17 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Battle On wrote:
i think this whole "raping the miners" thing is getting all out of control, highsec used to be a safe heaven for casual gamers where we could just do whatever we like without worrying about nullsec/lowsec thugs that ruin people's eve experience. why cant these people go back to nullsec to change things there instead of raping us? dont they have better things to do then kill the eve economy?



First of all, there never was a safe heaven.
That said, second, you deserve that this happens to you, because.
Third ... it's EvE. Playing "casual", "safe" and "leave me alone" doesn't work.

Advise ?

Connect with your friends, if you have any.
Connect to groups. Then connect to corps.
Then connect these corps to an alliance.

You either defend yourself or die in a big ball of fire.

The choice is yours.

Welcome to EvE online. (which you probably never really played anyway)



PS: No other choices given. You have no right to demand safety.
Just because you never really played this game,
doesn't mean others can't play it WITH YOU THE WAY THEY WANT TO !

Your "life" in EvE lies within your responsibility.
Man up or die.

Good luck. :)


Edit:
"Battle On" is a rather ironic name for a miner...


I like your thinking..

What is so called "rights" Made up by man/can change anytime/illusion .. all three are positive i guess

Only "right" you got is to adapt/follow/play by the rules made up by someone far more powerful( which is the case for last 6 thousand years or so( oltho power is something which doesnt really grasp the reality(meaningless)))

To the topic tho

Teaming up with your friend solve exactly nothing, thats truth. Even if you got shield and armor chains straight to your mackinaw it will mean that the gankers will simply sit alpha you. Thats the truth. Is it bad? Is it good? i guess the right answer to it is : It just is.

Nothing more nothing less, moral relativity is nice and can be discussed but will change nothing apart the fact that you can either approve the message its "wrong" or defend the message "its right" both camps are just the same, neither of them can just live without their moreal stands and neither of them will never accept the stand of the other one.

Is Mass murder good or bad/right or wrong/good or evil ...

Depend on circumstances.
Tanya Fox
Doomheim
#66 - 2011-10-24 18:29:36 UTC
Karadion wrote:
Jada Maroo wrote:
These are the inevitable outcomes:

* CCP will step in and change the way Concord works to better respond to ganking (permanent ice belt patrols with improved AI)
* CCP will intervene in the market and render the ganking largely ineffective
* CCP will change the way ice is distributed, spreading it out much further and making it impossible to fully camp (likely)
* CCP will change POS fuel requirements as part of their announced POS logistics change (also likely)
* CCP will realize the ice mining concept is terribly flawed and redesign it into soemthing not broken (not as likely)
* CCP will drastically increase tank of industrials (simplest, most boring solution)
* Goons will grow bored of the effort or need to reassign resources, will announce "success" and end the blockade

One of those things iwll happen in the coming months. Personally, I'd like ice to be removed and replaced by something that isn't so tedious as to REQUIRE bots (or stupid people) to be the only ones mining it.

This is the inevitable outcome:
* CCP will do nothing.



Why are you certain about that? Do you still have one of the CCP employees still in your pocket? Seem to remember the Goons were good at that.

Correct me if I'm wrong there :)
I Accidentally YourShip
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#67 - 2011-10-24 18:29:36 UTC
Karadion wrote:
Teamosil wrote:
IMO it's lame that the most powerful corp in the game decided to dedicate themselves primarily to griefing newbies. Kind of pathetic IMO.
One of the reasons why we like doing it. Because it's pathetic, sad, and just straight up funny.



The only reason to play the game tbh.
I Accidentally YourShip
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#68 - 2011-10-24 18:30:24 UTC
Skunk Gracklaw wrote:
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
(Side note: If you don't want to get ganked, tank up and ice mine in a battle ship)

I would like to know how you're fitting ice harvesters in a battleship.


Lots of Crisco.
Skunk Gracklaw
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#69 - 2011-10-24 18:31:41 UTC
Tanya Fox wrote:
Why are you certain about that? Do you still have one of the CCP employees still in your pocket? Seem to remember the Goons were good at that.

Correct me if I'm wrong there :)

None of the Goon employees lost their job.
Karadion
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#70 - 2011-10-24 18:32:17 UTC
Tanya Fox wrote:
Why are you certain about that? Do you still have one of the CCP employees still in your pocket? Seem to remember the Goons were good at that.

Correct me if I'm wrong there :)
Just because pubbies wish for certain things to happen doesn't mean it will. You're basically asking them to turn on invulnerability mode which they will not do.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#71 - 2011-10-24 18:37:46 UTC
Skunk Gracklaw wrote:
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I would like to know how you're fitting ice harvesters in a battleship.

Hadn't had to use it yet, so amend my advice to - "get ECM drones and buffer up"

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#72 - 2011-10-24 18:38:20 UTC
if CCP wanted ice mining to be safe there would be ice fields above .7 sec

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Skunk Gracklaw
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#73 - 2011-10-24 18:43:42 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Skunk Gracklaw wrote:
[
I would like to know how you're fitting ice harvesters in a battleship.

Hadn't had to use it yet, so amend my advice to - "get ECM drones and buffer up"

There was a guy in one of the ice belt systems yesterday using four accounts to mine ice. He had a hulk fit with one single ice harvester and everything else was tank and had ecm drones out. He had an orca to provide bonuses and store his ice, a scimitar providing shield reps and a dominix fit with armor reps. His hulk died to two goons flying a brutix and a tempest.

The best part is even if we hadn't ganked him he was still sitting in an ice belt using four accounts to run a single ice harvester in an unbonused ship. Fantastic.
Tanya Fox
Doomheim
#74 - 2011-10-24 18:44:50 UTC
Teamosil wrote:
IMO it's lame that the most powerful corp in the game decided to dedicate themselves primarily to griefing newbies. Kind of pathetic IMO.



What do you expect, they're the Goons.



Nice one Brick Squad, btw
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#75 - 2011-10-24 18:46:45 UTC
Skunk Gracklaw wrote:
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Skunk Gracklaw wrote:
[
I would like to know how you're fitting ice harvesters in a battleship.

Hadn't had to use it yet, so amend my advice to - "get ECM drones and buffer up"

There was a guy in one of the ice belt systems yesterday using four accounts to mine ice. He had a hulk fit with one single ice harvester and everything else was tank and had ecm drones out. He had an orca to provide bonuses and store his ice, a scimitar providing shield reps and a dominix fit with armor reps. His hulk died to two goons flying a brutix and a tempest.

The best part is even if we hadn't ganked him he was still sitting in an ice belt using four accounts to run a single ice harvester in an unbonused ship. Fantastic.



You giving yourself too much credit for something inherently out of your reach.

Just saying.
Skunk Gracklaw
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#76 - 2011-10-24 18:47:45 UTC
Tanya Fox wrote:
Nice one Brick Squad, btw

For some reason Brick Squad has become very interested in highsec mechanics lately. I expect to see Level 4 mission guides at EN24 any day now...
Skunk Gracklaw
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#77 - 2011-10-24 18:48:13 UTC
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:
Skunk Gracklaw wrote:
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Skunk Gracklaw wrote:
[
I would like to know how you're fitting ice harvesters in a battleship.

Hadn't had to use it yet, so amend my advice to - "get ECM drones and buffer up"

There was a guy in one of the ice belt systems yesterday using four accounts to mine ice. He had a hulk fit with one single ice harvester and everything else was tank and had ecm drones out. He had an orca to provide bonuses and store his ice, a scimitar providing shield reps and a dominix fit with armor reps. His hulk died to two goons flying a brutix and a tempest.

The best part is even if we hadn't ganked him he was still sitting in an ice belt using four accounts to run a single ice harvester in an unbonused ship. Fantastic.



You giving yourself too much credit for something inherently out of your reach.

Just saying.

So you're saying that a month ago it would have been normal to see that setup?
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#78 - 2011-10-24 18:48:38 UTC
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:
Skunk Gracklaw wrote:
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Skunk Gracklaw wrote:
[
I would like to know how you're fitting ice harvesters in a battleship.

Hadn't had to use it yet, so amend my advice to - "get ECM drones and buffer up"

There was a guy in one of the ice belt systems yesterday using four accounts to mine ice. He had a hulk fit with one single ice harvester and everything else was tank and had ecm drones out. He had an orca to provide bonuses and store his ice, a scimitar providing shield reps and a dominix fit with armor reps. His hulk died to two goons flying a brutix and a tempest.

The best part is even if we hadn't ganked him he was still sitting in an ice belt using four accounts to run a single ice harvester in an unbonused ship. Fantastic.



You giving yourself too much credit for something inherently out of your reach.

Just saying.


this doesn't even make sense what are you just saying

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Skunk Gracklaw
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#79 - 2011-10-24 18:52:04 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
this doesn't even make sense what are you just saying

He's arguing in another thread that Eve is just like real life so don't spend too much time trying to make sense of his posts
Karadion
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#80 - 2011-10-24 18:56:06 UTC
Skunk Gracklaw wrote:
Weaselior wrote:
this doesn't even make sense what are you just saying

He's arguing in another thread that Eve is just like real life so don't spend too much time trying to make sense of his posts

Eve is Real MANGGG.