EVE General Discussion

This would only hold completely true if EVE were based on standard space physics. The problem there is, it isn't. EVE space is based on fluid dynamics (to a degree at least), hence our ships coming to rest when the engines are shut off, and why we do not continue to accelerate if we leave our engines switched on.

In-character/out-of-character separation, mate. It's pretty easy to get your head around: Just because the ships move that way doesn't mean the ammo does. The laws of physics still apply in the EVE universe, they just may not be accurately represented on our screens because gameplay comes first, realism second.

(btw, the lore explaining the "fluid space" thing is that warp fields produce "drag" and have to remain permanently online because if they lose power they implode and annihilate any matter caught inside them, hence why your ships suffer critical existence failures - your last structure HP represents the moment when your ship can no longer provide power to the warp engine and the field collapses)

Where realism actually produces cool stuff, it sticks around. In this case, reality is pretty frakking badass because it means that if you throw something off into space at speed, the odds are that it will eventually hit something.

Realism doesn't stick around for ship motion otherwise our fights would involve razzing around at 90% of lightspeed, several hundred AUs apart. Each fight would take seven years, time-dilated down to an apparent seven weeks due to relativistic effects, and would consist of launching some missiles and lasers, taking evasive action, then waiting for seven weeks to see which ship, if any, explodes, rinse and repeat until one of you makes a fatal mistake. That would not be much fun as a game, so realism is neglected in favour of gameplay.

Yea, my thoughts on this would be why should I risk my 300mil battleship for something I can accomplish more safely in a 4mil destroyer?

Guess it just depends on the payouts. Can't imagine people on Dust will be dropping millions on orbital strikes every match, but who knows.

So why can't you hit a stationary target at arbitrary range? Why does damage decrease in falloff (the shell should not have slowed down)? Why if you miss one ship in a bunch of ships can't you hit the others?

Nothing about EVE weapons is realistic.

damage is partly a function of where the round hits. Precise shots that hit weak spots do more damage. Shots that hit an armour plate at a flat angle glance off. From further away, it's more difficult to aim a round wit the precision to hit those weak spots to do the most harm (represented in-game by a penalty on your attack result roll).



Because SHUT UP THAT'S WHY.

as I said above, whenever there's a conflict between realism and gameplay, gameplay wins. What we see on our screens is the "gameplay-ized" version of what's happening, rather than what would be happening if that scenario played out realistically.

I mean, if armour was portrayed realistically in EVE, each plate would cover specific systems (engines, warp drive, weapon control etc) and would have a chance-based likelihood of negating a hit on that system, modified by the power of the weapon and how many such hits each plate has already taken. It wouldn't be an ablative HP buffer that's reduced equally across the entire ship regardless of where the damage comes from

(TBH, I'd actually really love it if armour behaved that way, that sounds like a great mechanic)

See??? It's a SUBMARINE game!!

So.... why doesn't it? I mean, when a round strikes the ground, why are there buildings still standing? I don't suppose they're made of some uber-resistant material (unobtanium, for example) that is available in sufficient quantities to make indestructible buildings. And if so... where is this material so I may construct my starships from it?

Which is why I love it so.

And also why flying a Venture gives all new meaning to the song, We All Live in a Yellow Submarine

EDIT: I'm pretty sure that ship was coloured so as a joke by the devs in reference to the whole "EVE is submarines" meme.

*cackle* !!!!