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When I returned, my Stealth Bomber no longer shot Cruise Missiles

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Zaraz Zaraz
Zontik Paraphernalia Inc
#41 - 2013-01-10 10:59:40 UTC
Sifortua Aristea wrote:
Hello CCP,

I returned from a long break (4+ years) after having played EVE for about a year with some friends. Mostly casually (in terms of space explored, not time spent). Back then I "sacrificed" almost all my skill points to cut a path to the Nemesis Stealth Bomber and get comfortably seated in Covert Ops.

My friends joined a high-sec corporation and after a while the lack of a thrill made me quit EVE (eventually them too) and visit other more commonly known MMO's.

I am just wondering whether there used to be some sort of compensation for changing the main weapon used on the SB, like, a return of skill points for accompanied hours and actually the greater part of a month to spend if you would go all the way up to V again.

In my case, it's not that extreme. I just had the basic requirement for the bomber when I quit, with a set of basic skills to do mining runs with friends. But right now, I have to level Torpedoes to V before I could be even remotely useful to anyone and still level Stealth to V to get the Covert Ops cloaking device.

I'm basically just asking whether there was a form of compensation (I started with 280.000 skill point, but no idea where they came from and I used them before I found out that my Bomber was now useless) and whether I would still be eligible to it. It would help me out to bridge the loss of time (~half a month) and perhaps even allow me to find a corp that could use me, instead of sitting it out. Which is boring, for someone without the ability to solo 3 or 4s.

I'm aware that this might seem like a bit of a whiner thread, but it's not. I just want to know whether there was compensation and whether I'm still eligible for that. If not, fine too. Can't really blame me for trying, seeing that it would matter for over 226.275 skillpoints I spent in Cruise Missles (x5) and those points were purely taken to get to the SB.

Thank you for reading.


Yeah its part of CCPs overall plan to completely destroy immersion in this game.

What? Spaceships can get reconfigured all over the galaxy simultaneously? Wow! Magic!

LOL
Vojk
Rattini Tribe
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#42 - 2013-01-10 11:56:14 UTC
Sifortua Aristea wrote:
Hello CCP,

I have to level Torpedoes to V before I could be even remotely useful to anyone and still level Stealth to V to get the Covert Ops cloaking device.



Wrong and wrong.

You're doing it all wrong.
Sifortua Aristea
EVE University
Ivy League
#43 - 2013-01-10 14:53:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Sifortua Aristea
Vojk wrote:
Sifortua Aristea wrote:
Hello CCP,

I have to level Torpedoes to V before I could be even remotely useful to anyone and still level Stealth to V to get the Covert Ops cloaking device.



Wrong and wrong.

You're doing it all wrong.


Yeah, we established this already. But let me guess, you have a personal issue with reading 9 paragraphs. It's sort of an epidemic on these boards :)

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Yeah its part of CCPs overall plan to completely destroy immersion in this game.

What? Spaceships can get reconfigured all over the galaxy simultaneously? Wow! Magic!

LOL


Yeah, that almost sounds as good as being in midflight, toggling your weapons and your systems telling you that the god of mechanics decided that your ship now shoots torpedoes, so those cruise missile launchers are effectively draining your power and you can't use them. So, good luck captain, seeing you just entered a mission, you'll need it.

It's not just rerouting a few circuits is it :)

I didn't know how to read your comment, I'm sort of reading it as possibly sarcastic towards me and possibly sarcastic towards CCP, but I decided to assume human nature, which means sarcastic towards me, which means I at least get to reply ironically.

Quote:

you're just adorable. thats what you are.


Why thank you!

While I was responding to this thread, I was watching the series "Suits", so I guess I got my inspiration there :)
Sifortua Aristea
EVE University
Ivy League
#44 - 2013-01-10 15:12:09 UTC
CCP Guard wrote:
This reply by CCP Ytterbium might be of interest to this discussion. Cruise missiles are in line for a makeover.


Thank you. I'm not sure how this will affect me, but no doubt those changes would mean that more ships can utilize torpedoes and/or cruise missiles and in that context it's never wasted :)
Matthias Vilmet
Covarium
Minmatar Fleet Associates
#45 - 2013-01-10 16:09:01 UTC
I would suggest using Javelin torpedoes, taking missile bombardment 4, and fitting a Sensor Booster.

I kite things at about 100KM, doing good damage. Plus, Javelines have a smaller explosion radius and do more damage against cruisers and the like.
Sifortua Aristea
EVE University
Ivy League
#46 - 2013-01-10 16:16:33 UTC
Matthias Vilmet wrote:
I would suggest using Javelin torpedoes, taking missile bombardment 4, and fitting a Sensor Booster.

I kite things at about 100KM, doing good damage. Plus, Javelines have a smaller explosion radius and do more damage against cruisers and the like.


PvE or PvP?
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#47 - 2013-01-10 16:23:14 UTC
Sifortua Aristea wrote:
Matthias Vilmet wrote:
I would suggest using Javelin torpedoes, taking missile bombardment 4, and fitting a Sensor Booster.

I kite things at about 100KM, doing good damage. Plus, Javelines have a smaller explosion radius and do more damage against cruisers and the like.


PvE or PvP?


I'm going to guess he's talking about PvE here.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

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Matthias Vilmet
Covarium
Minmatar Fleet Associates
#48 - 2013-01-10 16:29:04 UTC
I would suggest Javelins for PvP as well, but only because they do more damage against anything smaller than a Battleship. Explosion Radius on the Rage Torps are stupid large.

Somtimes this game makes no sense. Apparently, in real life, a titan missile couldn't take out a bicycle.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#49 - 2013-01-10 16:30:05 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Sifortua Aristea wrote:
Matthias Vilmet wrote:
I would suggest using Javelin torpedoes, taking missile bombardment 4, and fitting a Sensor Booster.

I kite things at about 100KM, doing good damage. Plus, Javelines have a smaller explosion radius and do more damage against cruisers and the like.


PvE or PvP?


I'm going to guess he's talking about PvE here.


Probably, although there are times when there are a lot of fast frigates involved in a PVP battle when being able to keep hitting the bigger ships as you pull range is very handy.

It's a little bit fiendish that to mount much EW at all you have to give up your T2 launchers, but in truth it's just good ship balancing. I guess it would be pretty boring if one loadout dominated all others, this forces you to think and load out specifically for the tactics you and your gang will be using.

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Vojk
Rattini Tribe
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#50 - 2013-01-10 16:35:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Vojk
Sifortua Aristea wrote:


Yeah, we established this already. But let me guess, you have a personal issue with reading 9 paragraphs. It's sort of an epidemic on these boards :)



It's nothing personal. I just enjoy being irritating. But let me guess, you have a personal issue with researching a topic before (not) whining about it on the internets.

This is also an epidemic here.

However, I wish you good luck in your perfectly capable and highly dangerous meta fitted bomber. Please ensure that you have the 'Dam Busters' theme blaring full throttle in the background before engaging anyone. It gives an extra 10% damage to torps. No bull.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9E1LDOVGcY
Sifortua Aristea
EVE University
Ivy League
#51 - 2013-01-10 16:58:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Sifortua Aristea
Vojk wrote:
Sifortua Aristea wrote:


Yeah, we established this already. But let me guess, you have a personal issue with reading 9 paragraphs. It's sort of an epidemic on these boards :)



It's nothing personal. I just enjoy being irritating. But let me guess, you have a personal issue with researching a topic before (not) whining about it on the internets.

This is also an epidemic here.

However, I wish you good luck in your perfectly capable and highly dangerous meta fitted bomber. Please ensure that you have the 'Dam Busters' theme blaring full throttle in the background before engaging anyone. It gives an extra 10% damage to torps. No bull.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9E1LDOVGcY


I tried looking up a 4 year old topic ;) Research can be done by doing it all yourself or asking others that were still active in that period. It's actually part of research. Which is why your replies are not helpful, even remotely, and others' are.

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Probably, although there are times when there are a lot of fast frigates involved in a PVP battle when being able to keep hitting the bigger ships as you pull range is very handy.

It's a little bit fiendish that to mount much EW at all you have to give up your T2 launchers, but in truth it's just good ship balancing. I guess it would be pretty boring if one loadout dominated all others, this forces you to think and load out specifically for the tactics you and your gang will be using.


Trying to figure out what an EW is, but brain malfunctions. I am very bad with abbreviations

Wait, Electronic Warfare. In general, then?
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#52 - 2013-01-10 17:03:30 UTC
Bombs > Cruise missiles.

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Sifortua Aristea
EVE University
Ivy League
#53 - 2013-01-10 17:05:39 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:
Bombs > Cruise missiles.


But this thread is about Torpedoes..and Stealth Bombers.. (who can use bombs but only in 0.0 space, I read it.
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