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How does dust 514 benifit CCP if its F2P?
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Cecil Tanner
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2013-01-10 14:05:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Cecil Tanner
So if dust 514 is F2P like i've heard why would CCP put in this much effort and R&D and money for no profit?

Not saying that they are greedy or anything but i've never heard of any company that wants to loose money.
Amun Doshu
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-01-10 14:07:28 UTC
Cecil Tanner wrote:
So if dust 514 is F2P like i've heard why would CCP put in this much effort and R&D and money for no profit?



it will might bring the shooter guys to have interest in space and many will sub to eve to support their teams from the sky... simple?
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2013-01-10 14:09:05 UTC
Because DUST has microtransactions.

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Cecil Tanner
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2013-01-10 14:09:38 UTC
Amun Doshu wrote:
Cecil Tanner wrote:
So if dust 514 is F2P like i've heard why would CCP put in this much effort and R&D and money for no profit?



it will might bring the shooter guys to have interest in space and many will sub to eve to support their teams from the sky... simple?


Pretty risky given how much it must of cost to make dust 514 for that chance few people.
Syn Fatelyng
Redanni
#5 - 2013-01-10 14:10:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Syn Fatelyng
Quote:
Citation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dust_514

Unlike Eve Online, Dust 514 will not require a monthly subscription. It will instead use a micro-transaction model, making the game free to play.
Randolph Rothstein
whatever corp.
#6 - 2013-01-10 14:11:27 UTC
its a conspiracy to get dust players pay for microtransactions to make ccp more money to make better eve ...huehue
King Rothgar
Deadly Solutions
#7 - 2013-01-10 14:11:43 UTC
Same business model as world of tanks and planet side 2. WoT seems to be doing fairly well, not sure on PS2. Money is made off of premium accounts (XP/resource boosts), cosmetic items and simply purchasing items instead of having to grind for 500 hours to get them.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#8 - 2013-01-10 14:16:56 UTC
F2P ≠ Non-profit. It's only the “to play” bit that is free, after all…
Randolph Rothstein
whatever corp.
#9 - 2013-01-10 14:22:10 UTC
people overpay when they see shiny stuff,sub might cost 15 bucks a month but give me some cute pet and stupid xmas costume and ill just say shut up and take my money

its actually a miracle that eve isnt f2p micro yet
Rain6639
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#10 - 2013-01-10 14:25:32 UTC
the current package is 20 USD for a permanent gun and suit.
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#11 - 2013-01-10 14:26:37 UTC
Dust == Pay to Win

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Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
#12 - 2013-01-10 14:28:02 UTC
Facebook shares are worth billions and Facebook has never made a dime.

Get it?

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Rain6639
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#13 - 2013-01-10 14:32:46 UTC
In terms of gameplay magnitude, I'm filing Dust next to FW.

I don't FW.
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-01-10 14:37:24 UTC
Free-to-play is actually the most profitable payment model the games industry has ever produced. I'd be very surprised if DUST didn't turn out to be extremely profitable.

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Author of The Deathworlders
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#15 - 2013-01-10 14:38:01 UTC
Cecil Tanner wrote:
So if dust 514 is F2P like i've heard why would CCP put in this much effort and R&D and money for no profit?

Not saying that they are greedy or anything but i've never heard of any company that wants to loose money.


Dust has a cash shop where you can buy vanity stuff, skillpoint boosters, and so on. That's the revenue source.

Also it's a good advertising hook for EVE itself - anecdotally, quite a few Dust players have tried EVE.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#16 - 2013-01-10 14:39:01 UTC
silens vesica wrote:
Dust == Pay to Win


What advantage can you get in Dust by paying for it that you can't get for free?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
#17 - 2013-01-10 14:40:53 UTC
Ioci wrote:
Facebook shares are worth billions and Facebook has never made a dime.

Get it?


You are all wrong.
They are doing it so they can inflate their subscription numbers, crank up their share value and borrow more money.

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Rain6639
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#18 - 2013-01-10 14:41:08 UTC
equipment

would be like constantly undocking in noob ships in EVE, just so you don't have to pony up IRL money
Lexmana
#19 - 2013-01-10 14:45:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Lexmana
Stitcher wrote:
Free-to-play is actually the most profitable payment model the games industry has ever produced.

Are you sure about that or is it just a 'feeling' that you have: http://www.businessinsider.com/here-are-the-top-10-highest-grossing-video-games-of-all-time-2012-6?op=1
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#20 - 2013-01-10 14:46:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Rain6639 wrote:
equipment

would be like constantly undocking in noob ships in EVE, just so you don't have to pony up IRL money

Not quite. You can still earn your ISK for the equipment by just shooting stuff, and as the Dust-EVE integration moves on, it should be possible to earn it by getting paid by pod pilots.

Ponying up cash is mainly there to avoid the grind: either the XP grind by buying training boosters or the ISK grind by purchasing your equipment with AUR instead.

That's the genious of the F2P model: the grinders provide a dedicated base population that gives life to the servers; the drop-ins want in on the action and plunk down the cash to get the same stuff the grinders have without having to do the actual grinding. You don't need P2W to earn money from F2P because convenience is a much more compelling product.
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