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Lugia3
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-01-10 03:40:52 UTC
I heard that CCP plans on converting the Cyclone and/or Claymore to a missile boat. Anyone have a source link?

In my opinion, I wouldn't like to see the T1 Cyclone and Sleipnir to turn into missile boats. They should stay heavy-tanking turret boats much like they are now.

"CCP Dolan is full of shit." - CCP Bettik
Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
#2 - 2013-01-10 03:54:49 UTC
There was talk of the Proph going drone boat too.

While the Sleip is unbalanced making it a missile boat would be heavy handed, not like that ever stopped them. A bonus change to reflect command ship and if they plan to force them on grid to get bonus, some sort of miracle button for when 300 ships primary them.

R.I.P. Vile Rat
Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
#3 - 2013-01-10 03:56:45 UTC
Lugia3 wrote:
I heard that CCP plans on converting the Cyclone and/or Claymore to a missile boat. Anyone have a source link?

In my opinion, I wouldn't like to see the T1 Cyclone and Sleipnir to turn into missile boats. They should stay heavy-tanking turret boats much like they are now.

You haven't figured outCCP's new balancing formula? The destroyers are the blueprint and the basis is faction warfare. So from now on it goes missle boat for missle boat, drone boat for drone boat. Although don't be surprised if they throw in a turret boat for turret boat.

The real question will be who gets the top ship each time. Since Gallente got the best destroyer maybe it will be Amarr for cruisers, Minmatar for BC's and Caldari for battleships?
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#4 - 2013-01-10 03:57:30 UTC
A Cyclone missile boat will be EPIIIIIIIIIIC

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
destiny2
Decaying Rocky Odious Non Evil Stupid Inane Nobody
Looking for Trouble
#5 - 2013-01-10 04:00:58 UTC
http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=73530

confirmed claymore will be a missile boat.
Sarmatiko
#6 - 2013-01-10 04:07:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Sarmatiko
OP, please keep your dirty ideas away from my sweet Sleipnir. Thanks!
Lugia3
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-01-10 04:08:27 UTC
Sarmatiko wrote:
OP please, keep your dirty ideas away from my sweet Sleipnir. Thanks!


I have a beloved Sleipnir to. I'm saying that I DON'T want it to become a missile ship. Smile

"CCP Dolan is full of shit." - CCP Bettik
Sarmatiko
#8 - 2013-01-10 04:12:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Sarmatiko
Lugia3 wrote:
I have a beloved Sleipnir to. I'm saying that I DON'T want it to become a missile ship. Smile


You shouldn't even think about this! Don't mention Sleipnir or ancient nerf balancing gods will awake from the sleep and do something awful (again).
Rees Noturana
Red Rock Mining Company
#9 - 2013-01-10 04:32:10 UTC
The master ship balancer has spoken: https://twitter.com/ccp_fozzie/status/288771047854055424

Sleipner will remain a gunboat. Claymore will go missiles.

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Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#10 - 2013-01-10 04:40:18 UTC
Vince Snetterton
#11 - 2013-01-10 05:15:46 UTC
Sigh, well, my Claymores look to be consigned to the scrap heap, as several other of my ships were Dec 3rd.
Loved my 110K, 515 DPS auto-cannon Claymore dumping out lovely bonuses.

When it gets nerfed into a missile boat, I hope at least the designers have the sense to give it a HAM damage bonus.

But I sure am not holding my breath. More likely it will be something like a Heavy Missile range bonus, to match up perfectly with a drone bay designed for close in work.
Lledrith
Ex Caminus
#12 - 2013-01-10 06:10:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Lledrith
CCP reasoning still amaze me who's idea was of changing the Claymore from Turret to Launcher system. Some players still choose what could be their favorite ship to master and create a skill plan to follow now your just killing that single BC and making the other (Sleipnir) more reliable for following the gunnery path. There is no reason to fly a Claymore if your T1 bonus & requirement are for gunnery and I don't see the point of adding missile boats in the Minmatar when you could just jump into Caldari.

If you really want to change every ship in game why not use part of your game mechanics that you already have implemented. I don’t see why you could just start making new kinds of rigging system that change the slots from turrets to launchers to every ship.
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-01-10 08:14:07 UTC
Sarmatiko wrote:
OP, please keep your dirty ideas away from my sweet Sleipnir. Thanks!



This !!


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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2013-01-10 08:47:38 UTC
Othran
Route One
#15 - 2013-01-10 08:58:34 UTC
What will happen to the Cyclone is that it'll be ignored by newer players who will have had to decide on missiles or turrets - and turrets is the way you have to go at the start with Minmatar ships (unless you're some sort of masochist).

Older players won't care much as they'll have missile and gunnery skills anyway.
psycho freak
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2013-01-10 09:00:07 UTC
No to missile sleipnir tbh why screw a awsome ship up by makeing it missile boat

my spelling sux brb find phone number for someone who gives a fu*k

nop cant find it
Sexy in Black
Ducklings
#17 - 2013-01-10 10:17:16 UTC
Looking forward to all changes, Gonna fun making up new fits ^_^
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#18 - 2013-01-11 23:29:26 UTC
psycho freak wrote:
No to missile sleipnir tbh why screw a awsome ship up by makeing it missile boat



I can perfectly agree with this, but it needs balance anyway, Sleipnirs are far too good. I don't think it's a good solution to nerf it (being T2 hull) or for god sake don't put missiles on it, but I'd also like to see the other CS same tiers become as good as Sleipnir (I can use them all, gues why I choose that one over the 3 others)

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