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CCP is not experienced in making a spaceship mmo, why in the hell do you think they keep stumbling in random directions that the rest of the industry who is 'more experienced' keep failing at it? In all honesty most mmo developers have no idea what they're doing its a big game of try it out and see what happens.

CCP is a bold explorer and always seeks out to do newer things and do things that makes the rest of the industry cringe.

EA is now on its third attempt to kill Eve last time I checked. Its only a matter of time before they do something serious enough to hurt our subscriber numbers.

Better graphics, good sound, better voice acting, 12 ships, 3 races, a metal/organics/crystal/energy resource system, a couple dozen copy paste weapons, avatar combat, market, hand holding sandbox, and character progression both sides is a 4 year mmo project, throw mass market and less frustrating controls/concepts/player flow and you may have a serious contender. Luckily EA screws up Eve killers just as much as they screw up Wow killers.

This I can clarify. The reason why CCP has not said anything about it yes is because nobody has an idea yet, the so called 'conquest mode' isnt scheduled for 2014 or possibly even later. FW will remain as testing grounds however.

Releasing FAQ after stuff was deployed makes total sense. Just like you never publish patch notes before big patches...
Really why they wasnt released together with that blog?


I would love to decimate some random planetary population as well
Actually for some strange reason I cant find Tactical Laser XL on the market...

But maybe more important question. Would DUST became equal to EVE ? Imho they should be treated like 2nd class citizens, if for nothing else eve is older and P2P. I admit its a little selfish

Yeah that would be interesting to know.


mmh did you ever bothered to watch eve intro? Go watch it and than read that nonsense of yours :)
From the look and imho from lore side infantry should be like rats compared to capsulers. Honestly how you imagine to shot down dred from the ground?
But I'm afraid that unfortunately CCP wont follow that logic obviously as who would than play dust? Only to find himself vaporized by lasers from our battleships right after respawn.

However I hope that CCP will find some way how to allow us to wreck havock on planet surface while at same time motivating dusties to be happy to be killed by spaceships and not leave the game :)
Maybe dont count death from orbital strike to their score. Give them some fancy achievements on how many times they was vaporized.
Or introduce some "shielding" points into maps. While that point will have no contribution to any objective they have and would be completely useless except while one team holds it they would be shielded/invulnerable to random orbital strike from passing spaceships...sorry thats best I could come up with that late at night. But I know CCP have best minds working on this, best minds.

Just request for the future please dont do anything like orbital strike trigerring suspect/criminal flags etc in order to try to "balance" our desire to shot them to dust.


Really I would rather see station walking than this but oh well, lets wait.
But anyways good luck CCP, lets hope you wont screw our universe way too much :)


PS: I wonder why people respect NDA. Honestly I never bothered to follow it. Just go to mmorpg.com or your other favourite site and give us the info. Really its like you would be respecting nda in your newspapers and would not retell story you read to anybody cause you was told not to do it...
PS2: prototype assault rifle costing almost as much as cheapest frigs? Sure you need just about the same amount of mats to build rifle that has thousands of times less mass as spaceship :) Not that Small Arms are costing around 1k isk and it contain lots of weapons (volume 2m3 vs 0.01m3 of rifle)

We can install a cannon 18kms deep in a planet btw and its also thanks to wormhole tech so chances are the cannon we have is near tech 3 equivalent. As for clone vs clone, Dust 514 sleeper diverged clones are technically superior, we dont need slow back ups, we don't need a capsule for fast burns and our implant is more than capable of holoistatically interfacing with our MCCs which is very similar to a capsuleer tech 3 cruiser in terms of automation. I am pretty sure that can poke a hole though a dreadnought. After all a little lone drake with only 6 launchers managed to 'shove' a dreadnought into a planet and kill it. Also dust 514 soldiers have been tinkering with several prototype equipment well before capsuleers had their hands on it.

this is supposed to be the last wipe barring any unforeseen circumstances. I hate that open ended last half too, but what can you do? They don't "plan" on any further wipes once it goes live on tranquility. You should not loose anything when it exits beta just like you didn't lose your mail when gmail finally exited beta.... We have been playing the in-house development version of gmail and sending stupid emails just for giggles until now.

But in the long run, here's to hoping bounties can go both ways.

For my money, that is exactly what CCP is planning to do.

So does orbital strike come with pop-up gun camera window so we can see what we are shooting at (and of course the effects?)

Or is the EVE orbital strike forward aerospace observer coordinates controlled -- i.e. not really personal and highly friendly fire prone -- just destroy that square? Or is it AI gun target controlled (got some IFF and target priorities) but again not much real time owner operator feedback?

just make sure you guys are doing this **** the day i decide to resub..........

Simple answer: Ships don't have politics, atmospheres or ecological concerns nor many people.


First note that any EVE weapon bigger than small guns is considered to destructive for helping achieve DUST objectives. True you can Bring Titan as ultimate hardy mounting platform - but its not really economic use of time and risk in most cases.

Similar arguments apply in part to activating major planetary defenses for defense of one small area...especially when area is being conquered not destroyed. Keep in mind population and buildings in area around a DUST objective would far exceed the at risk portion. Plus most DUST missions are to capture DUST objective structures or areas.

Also EVE history has Titans and larger ships used more as blockade bases (reality sort of bends now that huge drones bays are removed but still) -- not firing on planets for most part. When they do the target are not captured but eliminated. Nobody really wins except in genocide sense.

--- Physically ? & Economically? ---
Aiming that huge gun might be problem. But the biggest problem is blast waves from muzzle would not be healthy to people and ordinary structures for many kilometers around. But yeah unified planetary defense probably can have such guns.

BUT the point of DUST is corporate and political warfare at the points just under where that would be economically and politically feasible.

Sort why don't we have full scale global war over 911/ Iraq / Korean missiles / etc ?

-- Politically? ---

A lot of corporate or small but key political conquests will effect less than 5-10% of planet. Further that 5-10% would not be facing total destruction or extermination only loss of control over certain industry or government structures. Thus instruments of total war would not be authorized.

Even more telling your area may well have planetary opponents voting to withhold use of that that UN / planetary style defense system.

The biggest EVE corp has far few members than planetary nations - so its easier for EVE corp to get concen

Good luck,

I can't wait to see what will happen here