Ships & Modules

By that logic the next time I see someone trying to push open a door that says pull, can I call them an idiot and it won't be an insult? Afterall, there's no disrepect to the comment, it's simply a true statement describing their idiocy.

Also, a statement becomes insulting when someone is insulted by it, regardless of whether that was the intent.

Otherwise you're basically saying that you can say anything you want to anyone and it's fine so long as it doesn't fall within your definition of offensive.

Be careful visiting other countries with different customs to yours, that attitude could land you in hot water.

Fair enough. I'll finish by pointing out that I have accidentally insulted people before.

Did I mean to insult them? No.
Did I agree what I said was insulting? No.
Was what I said actually insulting? Obviously. It must have been since they were insulted.

Ah well, we can agree to disagree as all mature people should. Shake?

True that, Although I do strongly prefer the dual prop, dual tackle ceptors (4 mids obvi) which allow for fast tackle, and speed tanking.

No they dont. They have plenty of fitting, better slot layouts and good lock ranges.

What they dont have is extra t2 bonuses... but they are still better, all in.

Let's consider two similarly fit MSE ships, an Executioner and a Malediction. Actually the Executioner gets more speed mods due to its better fitting, but it's still slower than the Malediction. Or the Executioner can fit more tank mods, but it will still have less tank than the Malediction and will also be either slower or have a larger sig radius.

The Malediction fits a single ionic field projector rig to get an equivalent locking range to the Executioner, but that factors into the T1's fitting advantage, which we've determined doesn't close the gap with the T2's native speed, resist, and sig radius advantages. (The advantages that you dismiss for some reason.)

Anyway, let's say both tacklers are orbiting a stationary target at their optimal tackle range. The Executioner orbits a target at 24km at a speed of 4600 with a sig radius of 228. The Malediction orbits at 30km at a speed of 5000 with a sig radius of 90. We aren't overheating MWD or points here because we have to hold the target for a few minutes.

vs. a vanilla armor buffer SFI shooting Barrage, the Executioner takes ~30 dps, but the Malediction only takes ~10 dps.

vs. a nano Zealot shooting Scorch, the Executioner takes ~140 dps, but the Malediction only takes ~15 dps.

vs. a Rapid Light Missile Caracal shooting CN Mjolnirs, the Executioner takes ~125 DPS, but the Malediction only takes ~70 dps.

I don't see how the T1 version is better as a fleet tackler, except from a price point of view. But since Intys are so inexpensive in the first place, it's like choosing between buying a Coke or a generic store brand cola: you can spend $0.50 on the generic or $2.00 on the Coke. Go ahead and save your $1.50.

Maledicton, because it looks so cool.