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Highsec, Casual or Hardcore?

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Battle On
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#1 - 2011-10-24 16:55:15 UTC
Since a few day, Goonswarm Federation has been really active in Hentogaira. they are podding every ice miner there is and they now they reached their ultimate goal: http://goonfleet.net/miners/. it seems to me they are now officially a maffia gank that rips people off for money.

250mill for 1 character just to mine ice. this is just perfect. many miners like myself are just casual gamers that afk-mine when doing some work. we dont make 250mill just to be able to mine. if we wanna make 250mill we should chance to hardcore mode and mine ALOT before reaching the 250mill.

also, its just too easy to gank a miner. i just saw a mackinaw get shot by a Brutix. this mean that a 15-30mill worth ship just ganked a 150mill worth ship, thats just outrages. i think ccp should do something about this since its just crazy that you can so easily pop a miner. concord pops up just too late to stop the ganker from killing the miner, which just sucks.

the reaction time of concord is about 3-5 seconds, more then enough time to kill a miner in a brutix. yes, the ganker gets shot, but for a nullsec thug is 15-30mill nothing. they do 1 anomoly and get raped. also their concord standing is -5.0 so they can enter highsec. there are people that killed 10+ miners in highsec and still continue raping them since they can enter highsec at all time. why? why dont they get killed when trying to go to highsec?

i think this whole "raping the miners" thing is getting all out of control, highsec used to be a safe heaven for casual gamers where we could just do whatever we like without worrying about nullsec/lowsec thugs that ruin people's eve experience. why cant these people go back to nullsec to change things there instead of raping us? dont they have better things to do then kill the eve economy?

so whats your opinion about this? what advice do you have for all those miners out there?

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Karadion
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2 - 2011-10-24 16:56:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Karadion
If you think we've reached our ultimate goal, you're sadly mistaken.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#3 - 2011-10-24 16:58:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenshae Chiroptera
They love your tears but don't worry; they make a few splashes but in the long term we just go back to mining as usual.

Edit: Get ECM drones and buffer up.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2011-10-24 16:59:48 UTC
Karadion wrote:
If you think we've reached our ultimate goal, you're sadly mistaken.


truth to be told, what Goonswarm trying to do is to show that icefiields in high sec are there to stay, since its hard work , unlike the carebearish nullsec miners Cool

Same goes for ABC in wormholes etc. They actually provide ammunition against nay sayers for high sec ice miners and wormhole dwellers
Karadion
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2011-10-24 17:00:05 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
They love your tears but don't worry; they make a few splashes but in the long term we just go back to mining as usual.
We've been blowing up miners left and right for almost 4 weeks now. We intend to keep our bounty program up indefinitely.
Unexpected
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#6 - 2011-10-24 17:00:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Unexpected
We are NOT podding every miner! Some of them get away... And I'm not quite sure why you're so upset - I don't think you've lost a single ship yet. Though if I were you, I'd probably put some guns on


your POS at planet 1, moon 3 in Hentogaira



You never know when you get war-decced...
Major Spag
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2011-10-24 17:00:41 UTC
Can't seem to find the page on the Eve Online mainsite that says that High Sec is supposed to be 100% safe for casual gamers to do what they want. I'll keep trying but I just don't think it is there. :V:
Delegado Cero
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2011-10-24 17:01:29 UTC
If you feel that Mackinaws are too easy to blow up, you should probably invest in a Hulk. They're much tougher.
They're also cheaper than our protection services, as long as you never get blown up.
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2011-10-24 17:03:05 UTC
Unexpected wrote:
We are NOT podding every miner! Some of them get away...

And I'm not quite sure why you're so upset - I don't think you lost a single ship yet.

Though if I were you, I'd probably put some guns on your POS at planet 1, moon 3...


passive aggressive ? Or is it an threat ? Truth to be told if he got POS he is in corporation and if he is in single man or small corporation what good it will be against 5k people worth alliance ? Unless every single gun can shoot AoE DD Big smile Even than it will get down.
TuonelanOrja
Doomheim
#10 - 2011-10-24 17:03:19 UTC
Battle On wrote:
why?


Because they can. If you get ganked, you are either bot or mentally disabled..

Not a veteran, just bitter..

Koby Botick
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#11 - 2011-10-24 17:03:31 UTC
Battle On wrote:
also, its just too easy to gank a miner. i just saw a mackinaw get shot by a Brutix. this mean that a 15-30mill worth ship just ganked a 150mill worth ship, thats just outrages. i think ccp should do something about this since its just crazy that you can so easily pop a miner. concord pops up just too late to stop the ganker from killing the miner, which just sucks.


I too think that ships should be exactly as difficult to destroy as how much ISK they cost. What?

Quote:
so whats your opinion about this? what advice do you have for all those miners out there?


There's an amnesty program you can participate, or you can continue to risk your ship(s). You have free choice, you see.

Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2011-10-24 17:07:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Jaroslav Unwanted
TuonelanOrja wrote:
Battle On wrote:
why?


Because they can. If you get ganked, you are either bot or mentally disabled..


same goes for you apart the fact you are not bot, you are just mentally disabled Big smile

Truth to be told you are nothing more then toyes you play the game for someone else .. Good work

Corporation whores are everywhere 90 percent of working population are indeed corporation whores .. good for you

Selling your bloody wares / brain /

PS. Anyway that's just reaction to insult , not my opinion about goons members
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#13 - 2011-10-24 17:08:46 UTC
Battle On wrote:
many miners like myself are just casual gamers that afk-mine when doing some work



boo hoo
too bad
tough luck
cry moar
get a life
do your job
grow a chin
shave your neckbeard
inflate your girlfriend

and so on....
Jenshae Chiroptera
#14 - 2011-10-24 17:10:12 UTC
Karadion wrote:
We've been blowing up miners left and right for almost 4 weeks now. We intend to keep our bounty program up indefinitely.


Doesn't matter, it will lose publicity, interest, momentum and die. Big smile

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

David Grogan
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2011-10-24 17:10:27 UTC  |  Edited by: David Grogan
Battle On wrote:
Since a few day, Goonswarm Federation has been really active in Hentogaira. they are podding every ice miner there is and they now they reached their ultimate goal: http://goonfleet.net/miners/. it seems to me they are now officially a maffia gank that rips people off for money.

250mill for 1 character just to mine ice. this is just perfect. many miners like myself are just casual gamers that afk-mine when doing some work. we dont make 250mill just to be able to mine. if we wanna make 250mill we should chance to hardcore mode and mine ALOT before reaching the 250mill.

also, its just too easy to gank a miner. i just saw a mackinaw get shot by a Brutix. this mean that a 15-30mill worth ship just ganked a 150mill worth ship, thats just outrages. i think ccp should do something about this since its just crazy that you can so easily pop a miner. concord pops up just too late to stop the ganker from killing the miner, which just sucks.

the reaction time of concord is about 3-5 seconds, more then enough time to kill a miner in a brutix. yes, the ganker gets shot, but for a nullsec thug is 15-30mill nothing. they do 1 anomoly and get raped. also their concord standing is -5.0 so they can enter highsec. there are people that killed 10+ miners in highsec and still continue raping them since they can enter highsec at all time. why? why dont they get killed when trying to go to highsec?

i think this whole "raping the miners" thing is getting all out of control, highsec used to be a safe heaven for casual gamers where we could just do whatever we like without worrying about nullsec/lowsec thugs that ruin people's eve experience. why cant these people go back to nullsec to change things there instead of raping us? dont they have better things to do then kill the eve economy?

so whats your opinion about this? what advice do you have for all those miners out there?


its a scam.... they would take your 250mil & laugh at you as your hulk explodes to one of their ganks.


also i really don't understand why industrial ships should be weak..... they are the most picked on type of ships.... if it was real life ship designers would be designing industrials that were extremely hard to kill...... tough tanks with plenty of defensive weapons not the current weak tank that exumers have and non existant tanks mining barges have with a few paltry drones for defense.

Everytime you buy something that says "made in china" you are helping the rising unemployment in your own country unless you are from china, Buy locally produced goods and help create more jobs.

Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#16 - 2011-10-24 17:10:58 UTC
Battle On wrote:
Since a few day, Goonswarm Federation has been really active in Hentogaira. they are podding every ice miner there is and they now they reached their ultimate goal: http://goonfleet.net/miners/. it seems to me they are now officially a maffia gank that rips people off for money.

250mill for 1 character just to mine ice. this is just perfect. many miners like myself are just casual gamers that afk-mine when doing some work. we dont make 250mill just to be able to mine. if we wanna make 250mill we should chance to hardcore mode and mine ALOT before reaching the 250mill.

also, its just too easy to gank a miner. i just saw a mackinaw get shot by a Brutix. this mean that a 15-30mill worth ship just ganked a 150mill worth ship, thats just outrages. i think ccp should do something about this since its just crazy that you can so easily pop a miner. concord pops up just too late to stop the ganker from killing the miner, which just sucks.

the reaction time of concord is about 3-5 seconds, more then enough time to kill a miner in a brutix. yes, the ganker gets shot, but for a nullsec thug is 15-30mill nothing. they do 1 anomoly and get raped. also their concord standing is -5.0 so they can enter highsec. there are people that killed 10+ miners in highsec and still continue raping them since they can enter highsec at all time. why? why dont they get killed when trying to go to highsec?

i think this whole "raping the miners" thing is getting all out of control, highsec used to be a safe heaven for casual gamers where we could just do whatever we like without worrying about nullsec/lowsec thugs that ruin people's eve experience. why cant these people go back to nullsec to change things there instead of raping us? dont they have better things to do then kill the eve economy?

so whats your opinion about this? what advice do you have for all those miners out there?


You're saying that someone moved your cheese?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

TuonelanOrja
Doomheim
#17 - 2011-10-24 17:11:29 UTC
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:
TuonelanOrja wrote:
Battle On wrote:
why?


Because they can. If you get ganked, you are either bot or mentally disabled..


same goes for you apart the fact you are not bot, you are just mentally disabled Big smile

Truth to be told you are nothing more then toyes you play the game for someone else .. Good work

Corporation whores are everywhere 90 percent of working population are indeed corporation whores .. good for you

Selling your bloody wares / brain /

PS. Anyway that's just reaction to insult , not my opinion about goons members

NI!

Not a veteran, just bitter..

Karadion
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#18 - 2011-10-24 17:11:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Karadion
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Karadion wrote:
We've been blowing up miners left and right for almost 4 weeks now. We intend to keep our bounty program up indefinitely.


Doesn't matter, it will lose publicity, interest, momentum and die. Big smile
Where's your statistics to prove this point? Right now. regular full-time ice miners are just plain scared to mine in Gallente ice fields because of the goons.
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2011-10-24 17:13:22 UTC
Karadion wrote:
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Karadion wrote:
We've been blowing up miners left and right for almost 4 weeks now. We intend to keep our bounty program up indefinitely.


Doesn't matter, it will lose publicity, interest, momentum and die. Big smile
Where's your statistics to prove this point? Right now. regular full-time ice miners are just plain scared to mine in Gallente ice fields because of the goons.



Where's your statistics to prove this point?

too lazy to write so just copy/paste
Jenshae Chiroptera
#20 - 2011-10-24 17:13:59 UTC
Karadion wrote:
Where's your statistics to prove this point? Right now. regular full-time ice miners are just plain scared to mine in Gallente ice fields because of the goons.


Hulkaggedon and the lack of long term impact. It was a bit of drama, something to still talk about but has changed nothing.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

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