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mavrick1
waistland prospecters
#1 - 2011-10-22 07:43:13 UTC
I have a sec status -5.28 with the gallente federation and i am wondering what do i need to get to so i can get the kill on sight status off my back so i can start doing missions in gallente space again what is the lowest or highest i need to get. and really i am just wondering so i can start doing missions again in there and other stuff

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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2011-10-22 07:48:55 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
The 'Plan' could be the answer to all of your questions.


Edit:

I think you mean Gallente Faction standing and not security status.

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Sir Substance
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2011-10-22 12:48:59 UTC
If you mean standings, see the plan above.

If you mean sec status, it works thusly:

1. Every 15 minutes, you get sec status added for the kills you have done in that 15 minute period
2. You only get sec status added for the best rat you killed in a system
3. You get the bonus for the best rat in multiple systems, if you killed rats in more then one system

So, to fix sec status, you go to a system, kill one rat (best in the group you come across), and then move to another system, kill another rat, move to another system.

Repeat until sec status is high enough.

Obviously this is faster the bigger the rat is, some people choose to grind in NPC or corp owned 0.0 for greater speed.

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Asana Keikira
Doomheim
#4 - 2011-10-22 16:21:08 UTC
You might also consider buying and training two or three levels of Diplomacy, which raises your standing with factions you have negative standing with. Takes a few hours to get to level 3, but it's kept my ship intact in Gallente space for a while now.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2011-10-22 17:43:56 UTC
Sir Substance wrote:
If you mean standings, see the plan above.

If you mean sec status, it works thusly:

1. Every 15 minutes, you get sec status added for the kills you have done in that 15 minute period
2. You only get sec status added for the best rat you killed in a system
3. You get the bonus for the best rat in multiple systems, if you killed rats in more then one system

So, to fix sec status, you go to a system, kill one rat (best in the group you come across), and then move to another system, kill another rat, move to another system.

Repeat until sec status is high enough.

Obviously this is faster the bigger the rat is, some people choose to grind in NPC or corp owned 0.0 for greater speed.


Also don't forget to train the skill - Fast Talk

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mavrick1
waistland prospecters
#6 - 2011-10-23 05:26:15 UTC
can i be higher then -5.00 to get the kill on sight. i have been trying to get back to flying in gallente space with out being chased by the gallente navy so what do i need to get just out of the -5.00 status with the gallente or do i need to be higher

under the radar is where i fly i make my isk like very one
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#7 - 2011-10-23 07:25:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
mavrick1 wrote:
can i be higher then -5.00 to get the kill on sight. i have been trying to get back to flying in gallente space with out being chased by the gallente navy so what do i need to get just out of the -5.00 status with the gallente or do i need to be higher
-4.99 to be left alone. Sometimes training Diplomacy is enough.

Quafe has security agents that can be found outside Gallente space (example: Penirgman in Amarr space), if you want to run Gallente storylines.

Sisters of EVE storylines also raise Gallente via derived standing, but with a much smaller hit to Caldari and Amarr standing that is almost insignificant.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2011-10-23 11:53:53 UTC
mavrick1 wrote:
can i be higher then -5.00 to get the kill on sight. i have been trying to get back to flying in gallente space with out being chased by the gallente navy so what do i need to get just out of the -5.00 status with the gallente or do i need to be higher


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Tau Cabalander wrote:
-4.99 to be left alone. Sometimes training Diplomacy is enough.

Quafe has security agents that can be found outside Gallente space (example: Penirgman in Amarr space), if you want to run Gallente storylines.

Sisters of EVE storylines also raise Gallente via derived standing, but with a much smaller hit to Caldari and Amarr standing that is almost insignificant.


Tau gave some good info.

I think some terminology needs to be clarified here. Security Status and Faction Standing. I think you have them confused.


The Character Sheet header and portrait displays all the basic information about your character such as Name, Race, Gender, Date of Birth and your Security Status. If you're being attacked in all Factions high security space, then your Security Status is bad.

Security Status
If you have -5.00 or lower (-5.00 to -10.00) Security Status, you'll get attacked by Faction NPC's in any high security system you enter.

Here is a brief list of your traveling options according to security status:

Players with -2.0 or worse will be attacked in 1.0 systems
Players with -2.5 or worse will be attacked in 0.9 systems
Players with -3.0 or worse will be attacked in 0.8 systems
Players with -3.5 or worse will be attacked in 0.7 systems
Players with -4.0 or worse will be attacked in 0.6 systems
Players with -4.5 or worse will be attacked in 0.5 systems

Once your security status reaches -5 you are considered an outlaw and can be attacked by players anywhere without CONCORD intervention.

This topic was addressed a couple of times on how to fix it.
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Sir Substance wrote:
If you mean standings, see the plan above.

If you mean sec status, it works thusly:

1. Every 15 minutes, you get sec status added for the kills you have done in that 15 minute period
2. You only get sec status added for the best rat you killed in a system
3. You get the bonus for the best rat in multiple systems, if you killed rats in more then one system

So, to fix sec status, you go to a system, kill one rat (best in the group you come across), and then move to another system, kill another rat, move to another system.

Repeat until sec status is high enough.

Obviously this is faster the bigger the rat is, some people choose to grind in NPC or corp owned 0.0 for greater speed.


Quote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Also don't forget to train the skill - Fast Talk



The Standings section (about 7 down) on the Character Sheet will have 2 tabs - Liked By - Disliked By - which will list Factions, Corporations, Agents standings towards you.. If you're only being attacked in Gallente High Security space, then your Faction standing is bad.

Gallente Faction standing
If you have -5.00 or lower (-5.00 to -10.00) Gallente Faction standing, you'll get attacked by Gallente NPC's in any Gallente high security system you enter.

This topic was addressed a couple of times on how to fix it.

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Faction_Standing_Repair_Plan

The Event Agents listed in this 'Plan' all give Faction standing increase.


Sorry but I just wanted to make sure you understood.

This site is a good way to show your characters statistics. After you create an account, you can post the characters info page.
http://eveboard.com/

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CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
#9 - 2011-10-23 12:11:48 UTC
Hi Mavrick1,

As already mentioned in this thread, the Diplomacy skill can work wonders on your effective standings. You might consider training this skill if you haven't done that already.

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Sir Substance
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2011-10-23 23:33:52 UTC
CCP Phantom wrote:
Hi Mavrick1,

As already mentioned in this thread, the Diplomacy skill can work wonders on your effective standings. You might consider training this skill if you haven't done that already.

please understand though, diplomecy is essentially a one time boost.

For example, if you were at -10 with amarr, you could train diplomacy to level 5 to improve your standings. However, once it is trained, if you then get your standings down to -10 again, you can't do it again.

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malaire
#11 - 2011-10-24 08:44:03 UTC  |  Edited by: malaire
Sir Substance wrote:
please understand though, diplomecy is essentially a one time boost.

For example, if you were at -10 with amarr, you could train diplomacy to level 5 to improve your standings. However, once it is trained, if you then get your standings down to -10 again, you can't do it again.

If you train diplomacy to 5, you will have real standing -10 and effective standing -6, and there is no way to ever get your effective standing to -10 again since you are at worst possible standings already.

Perhaps -10 was bad example for you to choose, something like -5 would be better. If you have -5 standing with no diplomacy trained, you can train diplomacy 5 to get -5 real standing / -2 effective standing. If you then later drop to -10 real standing / -6 effective standing, you can't use diplomacy again since you are already getting max benefit from it.

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mxzf
Shovel Bros
#12 - 2011-10-24 16:54:58 UTC
Sir Substance wrote:
CCP Phantom wrote:
Hi Mavrick1,

As already mentioned in this thread, the Diplomacy skill can work wonders on your effective standings. You might consider training this skill if you haven't done that already.

please understand though, diplomecy is essentially a one time boost.

For example, if you were at -10 with amarr, you could train diplomacy to level 5 to improve your standings. However, once it is trained, if you then get your standings down to -10 again, you can't do it again.


Incorrect. With Diplomacy trained it is impossible to get to -10 effective standing with any faction. Once you hit -10 actual standing, your effective standing will still be much higher than that due to Diplo but it can't decrease anymore since your actual standing has hit rock bottom.
mavrick1
waistland prospecters
#13 - 2011-10-24 22:24:48 UTC
well all thanx for all the help. i am back in flying in gallente space and it feels good

under the radar is where i fly i make my isk like very one
Sir Substance
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2011-10-25 00:06:03 UTC
mxzf wrote:
Sir Substance wrote:
CCP Phantom wrote:
Hi Mavrick1,

As already mentioned in this thread, the Diplomacy skill can work wonders on your effective standings. You might consider training this skill if you haven't done that already.

please understand though, diplomecy is essentially a one time boost.

For example, if you were at -10 with amarr, you could train diplomacy to level 5 to improve your standings. However, once it is trained, if you then get your standings down to -10 again, you can't do it again.


Incorrect. With Diplomacy trained it is impossible to get to -10 effective standing with any faction. Once you hit -10 actual standing, your effective standing will still be much higher than that due to Diplo but it can't decrease anymore since your actual standing has hit rock bottom.

oh really? is that the same for the one that affects pirate factions?

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mavrick1
waistland prospecters
#15 - 2011-10-25 01:22:11 UTC
well it did help me alot with the standing and now i am just working on missions to get my standings back up again

under the radar is where i fly i make my isk like very one
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#16 - 2011-10-25 03:00:14 UTC
Sir Substance wrote:
oh really? is that the same for the one that affects pirate factions?


To the game, standings are standings. There's no differentiation between the different factions and corps at all.

I've had -10 actual standing to Angels for a long time, but even though I keep killing them it doesn't go below -8.4 or so due to my levels in Diplomacy.

If you're thinking of Criminal Connections, it looks like the bonus from that, Connections, or Diplomacy takes whichever one is best and goes with that, they don't stack (it says so on all three skills).

From what it says, I believe Diplomacy is for people who don't like you, Connections is for people who do like you, Criminal Connections is for pirates who do like you.
Sir Substance
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2011-10-25 03:13:17 UTC
Well there you go, learn something new every day.

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malaire
#18 - 2011-10-25 08:11:52 UTC
mxzf wrote:
From what it says, I believe Diplomacy is for people who don't like you, Connections is for people who do like you, Criminal Connections is for pirates who do like you.

Diplomacy applies for standings where actual standing is below 0 (and can raise effective standing above 0) and Connections applies for standings where actual standing is above 0. If actual standing is exactly zero, neither applies. Roll

I don't know about Criminal Connections or pirate standings.

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