Intergalactic Summit

As much as I would love an audit of 115 years worth of DED, CONCORD and even SCC procedure and resolutions, the fact that I'd want these to further my personal position and the values of whichever nation-state or even capsuleer-state I choose to align myself with kind of highlights why this isn't going to happen.

CONCORD is accountable to the 'Big Five', not capsuleers who at worst exist at the sufferance of their parent nations (and thus CONCORD) due to whatever financial or infrastructural contributions they bring such as taxes or the retrieval of items of interest (so called 'blue loot' and other items of research interest that the Empires have yet to figure out how to retrieve as effectively as our kind). At best we represent armed civilian loyalist elements of said nations, again making us somewhat of a wildcard and in no position to represent our nation in anything more than word and act, not by political or military mandate proper.

After all, the best measure to prevent security breaches or circumvention of any institution or system is to completely deny hardware/procedure access and knowledge. A full dump of CONCORD actions would clearly be compromising from one view or another, as you have five empires pulling in different directions on the one hand, and the uppity civilian capsuleers waiting to get what they can because of or despite the former (myself included in that latter description).

Basically put, almost every capsuleer with enough patience to bear the suicide inducing tedium of reading over a century of report backlog would want access to such material. Considering the bell curve swings much more wildly towards unpredictable independent entities than the nation-states that founded the Assembly, it is likely for the best that we do not have such information.

It's convenient to forget about one's own misdeeds from the past which were arguably somewhat more... Extensive.

Fingerpointing solves nothing. Shifting the blame solves nothing. Only a godless man would be able to sleep after doing either.

To the OP:

Best of luck with this ambitious proposal. If you get bored waiting for CONCORD to agree to your demands there's a near-indestructible monument in Jita to vent your frustrations upon.

A lot of things ?

CONCORD's core mandate is not to 'protect universal peace' but is (in part) to ensure that total war between the empires does not come to pass.

The further accusation that the legal war declaration system and empire/capsuleer proxy wars are corrupt and used to 'profiteer' are somewhat difficult for us to comprehend.

There will always be conflict. That is part of the human condition. You are not a peaceful people.

The CONCORD war declaration system is in place to limit the scope of such conflicts and allow capsuleers to do battle without the intervention of CONCORD, as such intervention would cost lives and resouces that could be put to better use.
Additionally, the cost of such declarations further limits the scope of such activity.

The proxy wars currently being fought on the Matari/Amarr and Gallente/Caldari borders are known by many to be simply a show. The planetary populations of many settlements within all of the empires were calling for war, much like the wars that lasted for only a few hours some years ago. Should war upon those scales have been allowed many millions if not trillions of 'baseline' humans would have perished.
This number has been significantly decreased by the creation of the Militia wars.

We would also note that you believe the CSM is a body with sufficient power to preside in judgement over CONCORD. We cannot discern from the text whether you are using a tone or sarcasm here or not. If not, we would suggest that you perform some degree of research. The CSM is in no position to judge CONCORD and likely will never be in such a position.

Yes, that is another way to say it.

I can only support any investigation of CONCORD that is OBVIOUSLY intended to weaken or ultimately REMOVE the organiation IF the following concession is to be met:

In all space deemed to be high security, any offensive modules will be rendered completely incapable of firing on peaceable targets through a mandatory subjugation of all offensive capsuleer systems to an overriding coordinating computer system regulated by each star system. Otherwise, violence will run rampant, the innocent will suffer, and the corruption will be uncontrollable.

It's not only a question of the why, but also of the how. Fighting for your ancestral home may be right, and I would certainly do it for my own, but threatening civilian population, using a blank-out in CONCORD in order to stage a backstabbing attack and is a coward and vile maneuver that destroys the justice in your cause. You became terrorists when you took hostages, you became assassins when you attacked by surprise and without a previous and appropriate declaration of war. And Tibus Heth must answer for this once the Minmatarr leaders have done so for their part of the deal.

And, if your reference was, as has been pointed out, to my claim on your lack of an appropriate casus belli, then I still stand by my words. How many of the currently living Caldari have known Caldari Prime as anything else than a Gallentean planet from before the assault? How many were born there without a Gallentean rule? I believe probably none by now. This means that Caldari Prime is a Gallentean planet all the way. It would be the same as if we Ni-Kunni decided to part with the Empire because we once were another nation... centuries ago. And, to be precise, it's the same false claim to independance the Minmatarr Republic uses.



This whole statement is wrong. I may know politics, but I don't hold any office: can't pass any law, don't have a Holder's House on my command, don't have Navy Fleets to follow my orders, nor institutions to further my agenda. I am no politic, and neither are you. To be a politic is not to know politics, but to play an active part in that arena, and I'm yet to see most of the pod pilots posting in this forum to do any active political agenda of any of the major powers. As for the Empire, only Holders and officers of the Imperial Institutions can be considered politicos.

And, as for my opinions, on the contrary to what most think, free thinking is not necessarily a crime in the Empire, and thus I am still entiteled to my own opinions, which I have expressed here. That's all there is to it.

As for what I am for being a pod pilot:
I am a warrior.
I am no scientist, and barely have an idea of what most physical theorems and ideas mean.
I am no engineer, people do that for me when I pay them.
I am no politician (nor so are you), as I hold no office of political power anywhere.
I am a capsuller, yes, but that only means I am eternal and a very capable combat pilot and fleet officer, nothing more, nothing less. Thinking we are above that is mistaking what being a capsuleer means.

Mr. Iyammarrok,

Like I told our estemed Amarrian gentelman, its not as simple as that.



Respectuflly, It wasn't the loss of life that was so abhorrent, it was the fact that both side knew that they could never gain a decisive enough victory over the other for one to claim clear victory. The Caldari would never bow to the Gallente and the vice versa, and both sides knew that if the war continued it would destroy them both. In this however, the Federation had the distinct advantage of having a far larger populace, economy and war machine meaning that eventually the State would have collapsed under the sheer weight being thrown at it, though it would have likely brought the Federation down with it. The loss of life was a side effect of two massive egos and its foolish to think that our ancestors gave up the homeworld willy nilly. They knew they could never retake it, at leat not at a time when the Caldari State was in its infancy and Gallentee war machine was in full grind, and the Federation knew this and thus refused to even offer the homeworld back in peace talks.

The idea that both sides could have ‘continued to fight’ is simply incorrect and figminent of ones imagination.



The fact in this remains that the Federation refused to put Gallente Prime within striking distance of forign nation and they out right refused to put Caldari Prime on the table. The peace was out of neccessity, in the end the Caldari could not continue to wage war and hope to come out of it alive. I’m sure you’re aware of the concept of living to fight another day aye? Caldari Prime was sacrificed so that the State could live, that doesn’t change the fact that the Caldari homeworld was still robed from our ancestors.



This is true, they were apart of the Federation in the same sense that the Caldari were apart of the Federation. That doesn’t negate the fact that Federation refused to acknowledge that the Caldari didn’t want to have anything to do with the Federation anymore. Wars of Seccession are not fought when the one they are seceding from allows them to go peacefully.



Because in a sense its true. The Federation invaded, occupied and forced the majority of the Caldari populace to flee then refused to return the world to its rightful owners during the peace talks. The State had two options; continue to fight and doom the fledgling nation to ruin, or accept the loss now and wait until they were stronger to take back what was taken from them. Your telling me that your ancestors would not have done the same if the situation was reversed?



Giving implies it was turned over willingly; not after invaded and blockaded militarily and at the threat of destruction if refused. In the end, a real peace agreement was never reached and a ceasefire was put in effect, meaning a cessation of war was never officially recognized, but merely lull. It was inevitable hostilities would return.

Respectuflly,

Simon Louvaki

Let me see if I got this right, when invading another in the name of reclamation is good.

When a lost group of people is discovered and recovered from inside another sovereign space then its bad.