Issues, Workarounds & Localization

Hey,

To me the bounty system is an issue. I don't mind people placing bounties on others for a reason, but with the current system it seems like every corporation and every player (even new players) have bounties on them for the sole purpose of it can be done. I just have the strange feeling that like pokes were to Facebook, bounties are to EVE and eventually everyone in the EVE galaxy is going to have a WANTED sign under their corp or pilot name.

I know it's a bad topic and who ever brings it up or discusses it tends to get additional bounties on their head, which in itself is annoyingly funny, but something has to be done, its ridiculous and as far as I can tell provides nothing to the game in most circumstances.

Exactly. Almost everyone I talk to or corps I look up have little 100k bounties on them and it's high-sec, who in the world is going to attack let alone go to war with someone for a 100k bounty.



Another great point, first everyone is getting these bounties because they can just place a bounty on you for the heck of it, but once you have it you can't get rid of it unless you die and for most of these people they're not going to be in situations where they may die because they're not going to low sec and no one can kill someone with a bounty without being concorded.

Of course with this setup where you can place measly 100k bounties on people I'm not saying people should suddenly get kill rights, but perhaps start bounties at 100 million and then grant kill rights to the first bounty hunter to accept the mission. Least this way, there usually will be a reason to place the bounty due to the high cost, and their will be an incentive to take the bounty and kill the target due to the reward.

Just my 2 cents.

Then whats the point of the bounty system if a bounty hunter can't track down the bounty?

Without the ability to hunt down a bounty, then all you have is a war system, unless you're in low or null sec in which case it doesn't matter if you're at war or whether there is a bounty system.

If there has to be a bounty system, which appears that there does, then the bounty should have to start high enough for someone to actually want to place the bounty on that individual not just because you can, part of that can go to concord to look the other way say 50 million (the same as declaring war on a corp, but in this case its it's just the individual), the rest goes towards the bounty hunter that accepts the target. Only one bounty hunter can accept the target and get kill rights. The bounty should also either expire after x amount of time has passed, or slowly dwindle until it expires over x amount of time.

Okay, I'm following your logic when dealing with war decs using mercenaries, you pay them 50 million to go to war then place a bounty on the corp which they slowly receive ISK for as they do damage to the corp, that makes perfect sense.

So perhaps the solution should have been, I don't know what you would have called it, a mercenary system. Where a corp can pay the 50 million for the war dec + a "bounty" which other corps could then browse and decide whether they want to accept the bounty. This creates a system where everyone does not have a WARNING sign attached to them, it gives the mercenary corps a way to easily obtain bounties and it keeps the bounty system in a form that makes sense.

No, but the way the bounty system is now has no point apart from adding a warning label on everyone. If the system is used only by merc corps, fine, but then CCP should develop a bounty system for them such as the one above which is doing the same thing they are doing now just in a more organized fashion.

Right now the bounty system serves few and is just an annoyance where everyone is getting a 100k bounty which makes the current system not only broken but meaningless.

It doesn't work great the way it is. We have thousands of pilots running around with 100k bounties on them for no reason what so ever apart from that you can do that to other pilots. That kind of a system doesn't provide any substance to the game, it makes the bounty system worthless. What good is a bounty system if everyone has a bounty on them, you might as well just remove the bounty system and give anyone who kills anyone 100k for kill them, bam, bounty system without the warning tags.

I guess updating the WARNING tags to various levels of severity based on bounty size would be okay, but it still doesn't fix the problem of pointless bounties on everyone.

Creating the merc bounty system. Where corp A can create a bounty on corp B for X amount upfront and Y amount based on damage to the corp + the 50 million for the war dec bill and either post it to a merc board or assigned it to a specific corp to accept. Once the bounty is accepted, you have your 24 hours of wait time and notification of the war like normal. After which the merc corp can attack and gets its up front payment + bounties based on damage to the corp like the current system, however once the war is terminated what is left of the bounty returns to the hiring corp. Perhaps there is a wait time before the hiring corp can place another bounty on the same corp, say a week or two.

I don't know, just thinking out loud, but that continues to help the merc corps with their endeavors and prevents all the pointless bounties which will continue to propagate with the current system.

No it's up to the developers to create meaningful features for the game, and I'm sorry, but everyone running around with 100k bounties on them is not meaningful. When someone does something bad to someone and then receives a bounty, that is meaningful, what we have is annoying and pointless.



Because they hired a merc corp to do a job, they didn't complete the entire job, so the bounty is returned and the original corp can choose to create a new bounty if they want. The bounty couldn't remain unless technically it covered the cost of another war dec then I guess it could populate back into the merc board where the remaining bounty minus another 50 million would present itself.



Seems pointless, it is pointless. I doesn't matter how cheap or expensive it may seem, it's absolutely pointless and especially since it was most likely placed on a pilot for no reason what so ever apart from oh I can place bounties on people, woo hoo! What value does that add to this game? None, zilch, zero.

And as you've mentioned even with the bounty you're not going to go to kill someone in high-sec unless A the bounty is high enough (so why not make the starting bounty high enough to make it worth the kill) or B the corps go to war with each other in which case create a merc bounty system and remove the current system which is only use for a small percentage of people for the purpose of what a merc specific bounty system would be utilized for.



To the degree that if the bounty is high enough yes, else no it does not work great, it just provides another layer of non-sense to the games atmosphere and flood the world with meaningless bounties to the point where it's laughable to veterans and annoying to new pilots.

I think its the games problem, not just my problem, but yes I think that would definitely help the situation if nothing else was to change.

This adds a bit more complexity beyond just setting the minimum to a higher amount. But I suppose it would be okay for bounties to pile up then for the WANTED sign to appear once the bounty reaches 10 million and that players could if they wanted opt to show the wanted sign prior to 10 million, but once 10 million was reached it would show.

See the problem for me isn't that there is a way to distinguish between small and large bounties, its that the minimum bounty is so low people are placing bounties on others just because they can, not because they have a reason.

Ideally I think it would be great if after X amount of time the bounties remove themselves, because lets face if you put a bounty on some random bloak in January you're not going to remember them come March, now there is a bounty on someone for something that is no longer remembered. This may also cause people to put large bounties on people so that they'll be hunted down within the time frame.


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Ya, you did a good explanation on how mercs use the system, I just started down the whole merc only bounty system as a possible alternative to what we have.