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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#61 - 2013-01-08 09:35:33 UTC
Some really are disconnected to reality by only seeing themselves, ignoring everybody else.

If miners go on strike, after a few months, supplies will dry out and prices will rise.

At some point then, in the not so distant future, other people will start making mining-alts,
because suddenly mining becomes worthwhile again.

It's funny how people think they aren't replaceable.

Go on strike ... leave the game ... you won't be missed.
GallowsCalibrator
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#62 - 2013-01-08 09:50:05 UTC
Tippia wrote:
GallowsCalibrator wrote:
Because necromancy is an abomination, and The Iron Witch more so.
Now now, just because you wouldn't be able to use Turn Undead on her doesn't mean it would be the end of the world. I'm sure other standard remedies such as burning would still have full effect.


Mere fire isn't nearly enough, and you'd still have to find her dread phylactery and smash it with the righteous Hammer of Glorious Socialism against the Anvil of The People before the final death holds fast.
Dave Stark
#63 - 2013-01-08 11:03:42 UTC
Dreusyla Arashi wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
PS. the ships still aren't balanced.


Come on, they're perfectly balanced. That's why you see an even mix of them in the belts.... oh...


My God, it's Full of Macks!


not to mention the skiff/procurer still doesn't have a use.


actually the skiff is used frequently for solo mining in nullsec and wormholes where the rats are a helluva lot bigger


no, because you just kill the rats. especially in a wormhole where they don't respawn. the procurer/skiff sacrifice yield and cargo and get nothing of value in return.
Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
#64 - 2013-01-08 11:06:42 UTC
TheBlueMonkey wrote:
This assumes that members of high sec could be organized and uniformed enough to pull it off.

Given how they can barely get together to organize a decent CSM member, I some how doubt they could every stop mining long enough for it to make any real difference.


Mainly solo & small group players in hisec = no chance of organisation.

It would take one hell of a good campaign to get them to agree on a CSM member never mind anything else
Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
#65 - 2013-01-08 11:08:27 UTC
Dave stark wrote:
Dreusyla Arashi wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
PS. the ships still aren't balanced.


Come on, they're perfectly balanced. That's why you see an even mix of them in the belts.... oh...


My God, it's Full of Macks!


not to mention the skiff/procurer still doesn't have a use.


actually the skiff is used frequently for solo mining in nullsec and wormholes where the rats are a helluva lot bigger


no, because you just kill the rats. especially in a wormhole where they don't respawn. the procurer/skiff sacrifice yield and cargo and get nothing of value in return.


Yet I still see them often in belts when the gankers are out to play
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#66 - 2013-01-08 11:11:19 UTC
If they fix the extra slot the Mack has (Calculating all three as if they have three high slots, due to role bonus), the Skiff will then have equal yield to the Mack (assuming scanner used to cut cycles short as required).
At that point the cargo vs tank is the only question.
So, end point of that, easy fix.
Dave Stark
#67 - 2013-01-08 11:12:20 UTC
Ruskarn Andedare wrote:


Yet I still see them often in belts when the gankers are out to play


belts
null/wh

right. ok.
Dave Stark
#68 - 2013-01-08 11:14:39 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
If they fix the extra slot the Mack has (Calculating all three as if they have three high slots, due to role bonus), the Skiff will then have equal yield to the Mack (assuming scanner used to cut cycles short as required).
At that point the cargo vs tank is the only question.
So, end point of that, easy fix.


no, that won't change anything. the mackinaw still has enough tank to make ganking unprofitable and therefore all you're doing is just lowering the mack's yield and nothing more. you haven't done anything to address the balance between ships.

swapping the mackinaw and the hulk's tank is the most logical change to ensure a balance between the ships (skiff's niche being completely irrelevant aside)
Randolph Rothstein
whatever corp.
#69 - 2013-01-08 11:43:31 UTC
its a grand idea and i would die laughing at people who never mined crying about huge prices of stuff Lol

too bad its not gonna happen,it would be hilarious
Kainotomiu Ronuken
koahisquad
#70 - 2013-01-08 20:29:05 UTC
Randolph Rothstein wrote:
its a grand idea and i would die laughing at people who never mined crying about huge prices of stuff Lol

too bad its not gonna happen,it would be hilarious

Prices would hardly change at all, unless we're talking about the completely unrealistic scenario of all mining in New Eden stopping for ever.

In any other situation, the vacuum would quickly be filled by people who saw the chance to profit from the lowered supply of base materials.
Stegas Tyrano
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#71 - 2013-01-08 20:34:03 UTC
Because unlike some players, there are miners who find quiet, out of the way systems, who've never been ganked or bumped before.Bear

EDIT: Please don't hunt me down and kill me kthxbai

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Dave Stark
#72 - 2013-01-08 21:17:28 UTC
Stegas Tyrano wrote:
Because unlike some players, there are miners who find quiet, out of the way systems, who've never been ganked or bumped before.Bear

EDIT: Please don't hunt me down and kill me kthxbai


so basically every one that mines more than 5 jumps away from jita?
Wescro
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#73 - 2013-01-08 21:38:57 UTC
Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
what would happen if all the miners went on strike? Shocked


Do it.

http://crossingzebras.com/2013/02/17/csm8ripardteg/
Brusanan
Sons of Seyllin
Pirate Lords of War
#74 - 2013-01-08 22:43:02 UTC
Miners are bad at Eve, and could never pull off a strike.
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#75 - 2013-01-08 23:29:23 UTC
Ocih wrote:

I prefer eccentric. I don't mine or manufacture out of Jita either. I know, the inefficiency of it all. It's like I played EVE like it was a video game or something.


If you mine for entertainment why don't you come over and paint my kitchen.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#76 - 2013-01-08 23:32:32 UTC  |  Edited by: RubyPorto
SmilingVagrant wrote:
Ocih wrote:

I prefer eccentric. I don't mine or manufacture out of Jita either. I know, the inefficiency of it all. It's like I played EVE like it was a video game or something.


If you mine for entertainment why don't you come over and paint my kitchen.


That's a bad comparison. You need to invite him over to watch and make sure the paint in your newly-remodeled kitchen actually dries in a linear fashion.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Dheeradj Nurgle
Hoover Inc.
Snuffed Out
#77 - 2013-01-08 23:36:35 UTC
Those Mining Bots won't go on strike.
Kainotomiu Ronuken
koahisquad
#78 - 2013-01-08 23:38:53 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
SmilingVagrant wrote:
Ocih wrote:

I prefer eccentric. I don't mine or manufacture out of Jita either. I know, the inefficiency of it all. It's like I played EVE like it was a video game or something.


If you mine for entertainment why don't you come over and paint my kitchen.


That's a bad comparison. You need to invite him over to watch and make sure the paint in your newly-remodeled kitchen actually dries in a linear fashion.

That's a better comparison, but still not perfect. He needs to invite Ocih over to position a hairdryer pointing at the wall and then check back every hour or so to make sure it is still running.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#79 - 2013-01-08 23:39:37 UTC
Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
SmilingVagrant wrote:
Ocih wrote:

I prefer eccentric. I don't mine or manufacture out of Jita either. I know, the inefficiency of it all. It's like I played EVE like it was a video game or something.


If you mine for entertainment why don't you come over and paint my kitchen.


That's a bad comparison. You need to invite him over to watch and make sure the paint in your newly-remodeled kitchen actually dries in a linear fashion.

That's a better comparison, but still not perfect. He needs to invite Ocih over to position a hairdryer pointing at the wall and then check back every hour or so to make sure it is still running.


Don't forget having to run to the store every hour for a new set of batteries.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#80 - 2013-01-09 01:25:51 UTC
Brusanan wrote:
Miners are bad at Eve, and could never pull off a strike.

Ouch.

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