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So, the hisec pocket in solitude?


You have well over 1000 manufacturing slots at your disposal. vOv


For what? You have well over 1000 free manufacturing slots at your disposal, what do you need fuel for?

I see.

Wormhole?


Yes, it is.


No, it isn't.

Wow, CCP should pay you. Did you do this all out of the kindness of your heart? Also, you should tell CCP that you are doing this, so they can stop spending all that money on marketing and game development. It's not necessary! You've got it covered.


If they don't do those things in null, then they aren't null sec players.

Okay . . . what is NVEDS?

Null sec industrialists have access to a greater abundance of building materials. I thought we'd gone over this. Are you genuinely not getting that? Are you playing stupid? Or are you stupid? You can have a bajillion slots, but if you don't have the material to build the item, then that becomes the limiting factor. High sec has slots. Null sec has mats. You want null sec to have both and I suspect you'd like high sec to have neither.


Yes, go shoot a neutral at one of the borders to your country and let us know how that turns out. You realized the "SI" stood for "shoot it", right?


And, yet, you manage to construct titans. Did it ever occur to you that a)having mostly people in your group who break stuff rather than build stuff means you'll have to get stuff to break from other groups? b)breaking a bunch of stuff (i.e. capitals, battleships, POSes, etc.) almost as fast as it is built makes it hard for the builders of stuff to keep up with the demand, no matter how much "industrial capacity" a region has?

I still have some stuff in nullsec , you can even go find screenshots on these forums with some google.

But hey, what do I know, that putting potential for income in all the 0.0 systems would surely bring in more conflict. Because having all good in a similar way (because that's what happens if you buff places with similar infrastructures) makes people want to fight for similarly good other nearby sytems...

(Edit: this is not to say industry should not be buffed, just that putting some generic "more income sources" is not a conflict driver, if anything it drives will to fight over the good stuff less intense).

Let's compare today's situation (where systems aren't worth much to linemembers) with the situation where CCP have made nullsec systems better for industrialists. On one hand, mostly worthless systems. On the other hand, systems which are worth something to a lot more people, and which in turn is being used to finance the alliance.

Gee, I wonder what would be the better incentive for an alliance to consider taking space from another alliance.

I edited my above post for more precision.
Anyway I don't believe that introducing "more riches" with an equal distribution is a great conflict driver. It's why in PvP games they don't give flags and "hills" to every player but make them the objective.

Except if there's "more riches", there's "more people", where there's "more people" there's "more targets", and where there's "more targets", there's "more PVP".

Sure, it may not be the be all end all of conflict drivers on the sov scale, but it'll sure as hell provide more content for more people who might want to roam around in small gangs or solo, and don't feel like large fleet fights over structures are the eve endgame.

And, if the sov system was fixed so keeping control over large swathes of space was harder, there'd be more chance for smaller alliances to grab a tiny slice of the action as well, because the defending alliances end up having to contract because they just can't defend all the space they have.

Yes, the sov system would do a lot, in fact it's why I see it as a prerequisite or "root" for the subsequent revamps of the other sub-features like industry and even "treaties" etc.

I think the "farms" should be upgradeable, that would make them more appetible even if they start in equal terms.
If they are static, instead, it's easy to enter in a state of "stuffed apathy", where people lose the drive to go out and conquer similar nearby systems. It'd take the leadership to push them, and this is less effective than having people eager to go out by themselves.

The "if there's more riches, there's more people => more targets" does not work so good in hi sec (where we have the living example), exactly because of the "stuffed" factor. Why fight, when space is so big and there's some stuff for everybody.

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I'm willing to bet most of those are green