EVE General Discussion

You do a good job of doing that for us. People just like to pile onto a trainwreck.

Money is not the ultimate power in 0.0. Time and time again has shown that all great empires with masses of wealth have and will be stricken down.

You would know that if you ever lived in nullsec or have done any research on how nullsec empires operate. And you would know more conflict would break out if there were more income sources because it won't be just the grand coalitions that are viable. And above all, you would know that there is no possible way that nullsec can or would ever take a serious attempt to "control" highsec.

Brought tens of thousands of people into the game who would have not bothered unless we existed or because of stories and vast content that we create, provided a great amount of demand for things highsec produces to fight eachother in increasingly pointless wars, and sustained a barely-viable game mechanic in the hopes of it becoming fun one day. What have you done, increased the number in your wallet? Sure looks like it from the amount of game knowledge you display.

I agree 100% and yet here the super rich alliances are allowing ISK to dictate their industrial Policy. Allowing Jita ISK sheets to say they shouldn't run industrial in Null because it isn't profitable. Even with their half trillion a month moon goo basket, the Mighty goons pinch pennies in Jita rather than just online 200 POS and make their own stuffs.

Stunning and amazing.

Why should goons waste money - and much more to the point, vast amounts of time and effort - producing things in POS?

It's not just that it's massively unprofitable compared to grabbing stuff from Jita and JFing it down. It's that it's impossible to match the industrial capacity of 1 System, 2 jumps out from Jita, with an entire Nullsec region full of Minmatar Outposts (at a cost of well over a Trillion Isk).

200 POSes at a cost of 100 Billion ISK per month (plus startup costs) to try to match 1 high sec system whose manufacturing capacity costs 500 million ISK per month. And that's ignoring the cockpunch that is POS manufacturing.

And that all ignores the fact that you still need to import the lowends (due to the hardcoded Ore ratios found in Industry sites).

I dunno, that's what the game gave you to manufacture with in Null?
That's right, it isn't about defying the odds, its about crying on the forums untill they are in your favor.

I spent the last 6 hrs mining Jaspet, throwing rock at you guys. It isn't like I had anything else to do. What did you do?

The real world operates under NBSI, why shouldn't EVE?

You really think that the geo-political boundaries of our world were defined because there was free movement?

Your citizenship determines you are BLUE to a nation or not.

We just live in a unique time in the world when diplomacy has advanced enough to be feasible to make it appear we operate under NRDS.

The truth is, EVE diplomacy hasn't advanced to that level because people don't want to do diplo.

Avoided Null Sec.
Gotcha.

remember observers, we're supposed to spend trillions of ISK, centuries of manhours and hobble ourselves against all rivals for no other purpose then for the pleasure of Skydell's company, a moral decision according to Skydell. with such a charming personality it really is a wonder why this hasn't happened and instead he has to mine roids in lowsec

another wonder is why all alliances that have tried this have died

See See Pee, I am in a High Sec pocket 40 jumps, from Jita, surrounded by nasty low sec pirates and there is no market.

Can you guys seed it for me so it is betterer for my game? It costs too much to get my fuel in and I need to do all my own mining and make my own ships. Sure, I could just clone out and play stock broker in Jita but I want to do it out where I am because it took a long time to get out there and take all my stuff and stuff.

Your HS pocket likely has more industrial capacity for free than most (if not all) Nullsec constellations get after pumping hundreds of billions of ISK into improving their industrial capacity.