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A little confused about contracts for a corp
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Jake Salvator
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-01-08 05:58:42 UTC
So, learning the hard way - I've realised that making a contract assigned to a corp means that any member within the corp can accept.

Specifically, I'm looking for a way to allow multiple people to accept ore from members for the ore buy back so it isn't just one person having to do all the work without having every member in the corp able to accept it.

Is there a way to do this?

- Salvator
Detrakur Marentis
Les Colons Irritables
#2 - 2013-01-08 06:01:46 UTC
I tought the only members allowed to accept/reject contract created by other members were members with the contract managing role.

If i'm wrong, I could have some problem with that too!
Jake Salvator
Doomheim
#3 - 2013-01-08 06:21:48 UTC
My understanding so far is that's not the case.

I believe that role allows them to accept with corp cash.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#4 - 2013-01-08 07:34:54 UTC
In short no, though you could setup a dummy corp.

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Contracts#Availability.2C_Visibility_and_History
EVElopedia wrote:
Corporation
A contract that is assigned to a corporation can be accepted by anyone in the corporation or by the corporation itself. Every member of the corporation will be able to see the contract while it is outstanding. After it is finished everyone in the corporation will be able to view it as a part of the acceptor's and issuer's contract history. If you leave the corporation you will no longer have access to that history.

It's important to note that here, as well as in Alliance wide contracts anyone in the corporation/alliance can accept the contract, not only the corporation to which the contract was issued. If you want the contract to be only acceptable by the corporation you should assign it to one of the corporations Contract Manager's, he can then accept it on behalf of his corporation.

Alliance
You can assign a contract to your alliance which works the same way as assigning to a corporation except that every member of every corp belonging to the alliance can view the contract.
Archibald Thistlewaite III
The Royal Society for the Prevention of Miners
#5 - 2013-01-08 09:19:03 UTC
Jake Salvator wrote:
So, learning the hard way - I've realised that making a contract assigned to a corp means that any member within the corp can accept.

Specifically, I'm looking for a way to allow multiple people to accept ore from members for the ore buy back so it isn't just one person having to do all the work without having every member in the corp able to accept it.

Is there a way to do this?

- Salvator



Use station containers and corp hangers.

All miners have access to one corp hanger which is full of empty station containers. They take one, put their name on it and fill it with their ore. They then drop it into another corp hanger 'Ore buy back hanger'. (you do not need access roles to put stuff into corp hangers)

The people accepting the ore have access to the 'Ore buy back hanger' can take the containers out pay your members and put the empty containers back in the first hanger.

If your miners get itchy fingers all they have access to is empty containers, so no biggie if they all get stolen.

User of 'Bumblefck's Luscious & Luminous Mustachio Wax'
Jake Salvator
Doomheim
#6 - 2013-01-08 10:32:23 UTC
I absolutely love that idea! Thank you so much :) I'd like your post 10 times if I could.
Archibald Thistlewaite III
The Royal Society for the Prevention of Miners
#7 - 2013-01-08 16:18:30 UTC
Jake Salvator wrote:
I absolutely love that idea! Thank you so much :) I'd like your post 10 times if I could.


Just make sure your corpmates all have permits and we're all square. Blink

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Cameron Zero
Sebiestor Tribe
#8 - 2013-01-08 18:42:28 UTC
As someone who creates hundreds of corporate contracts every week, I can confirm that setting a contract available to your corp means anyone in the corporation can accept it. Honestly, I'm okay with that as it works for my purposes. Alliance is treated the same way, in that anyone in the Alliance can accept them.

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Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#9 - 2013-01-09 01:43:08 UTC
Jake Salvator wrote:
So, learning the hard way - I've realised that making a contract assigned to a corp means that any member within the corp can accept.

Specifically, I'm looking for a way to allow multiple people to accept ore from members for the ore buy back so it isn't just one person having to do all the work without having every member in the corp able to accept it.

Is there a way to do this?

- Salvator


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Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#10 - 2013-01-09 01:44:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Mars Theran
Archibald Thistlewaite III wrote:
Jake Salvator wrote:
So, learning the hard way - I've realised that making a contract assigned to a corp means that any member within the corp can accept.

Specifically, I'm looking for a way to allow multiple people to accept ore from members for the ore buy back so it isn't just one person having to do all the work without having every member in the corp able to accept it.

Is there a way to do this?

- Salvator



Use station containers and corp hangers.

All miners have access to one corp hanger which is full of empty station containers. They take one, put their name on it and fill it with their ore. They then drop it into another corp hanger 'Ore buy back hanger'. (you do not need access roles to put stuff into corp hangers)

The people accepting the ore have access to the 'Ore buy back hanger' can take the containers out pay your members and put the empty containers back in the first hanger.

If your miners get itchy fingers all they have access to is empty containers, so no biggie if they all get stolen.


Unless something has changed, anyone can take the station container and drop it in their hangar, reset any passwords and dump it , then toss the empty container back in corp hangar and wait for someone to notice.

..actually, I'm not even sure the passwords work anymore, as the last one I set didn't seem to have any requirement to be input before accessing the container.
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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#11 - 2013-01-09 05:02:17 UTC  |  Edited by: RubyPorto
Mars Theran wrote:
Unless something has changed, anyone can take the station container and drop it in their hangar, reset any passwords and dump it , then toss the empty container back in corp hangar and wait for someone to notice.

..actually, I'm not even sure the passwords work anymore, as the last one I set didn't seem to have any requirement to be input before accessing the container.


Which is why the public division is full of empty containers which the miners put in their personal hangars, fill, rename, and toss into a division where nobody but trusted people have access.

Alternatively, you can lock containers down using a corp vote, then give each miner a different password to access them.

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Lord Battlestar
CALIMA COLLABORATIVE
Atrox Urbanis Respublique Abundatia
#12 - 2013-01-10 06:59:36 UTC
I thought just simply not giving them container take access prevents them from pulling containers out of hanger?

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