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Head of the so-called "Jewbal" running for CSM?

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Thomas Hurt
Future Ventures
#1 - 2013-01-07 23:48:16 UTC
First off, don't jump all over me for the 'Jewbal' thing in the thread title. Its a cheeky name the goon financiers gave themselves because they're almost all Jewish.

Anyways, is anyone else a bit concerned about this? I'm sure many of us remember FW-gate, where every main in Goonwaffe was given 100bn from the proceeds (which was mostly later clawed back by CCP, but still). Who is to say the incestuous relationship between Goon and CCP won't develop even further?

Eisenhower warned the United States about the Military-Industrial Complex, I'm here to start a dialogue about the worrying path the politics in this game has taken. If you want a picture of the future, imagine a bee stinging a pubbie face... forever.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-01-07 23:50:24 UTC
CSM members can't use NDA privileged information to gain an advantage in-game, and if they did they'd almost certainly be caught. What's the problem?

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Aryth
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-01-07 23:50:28 UTC
Thomas Hurt wrote:
First off, don't jump all over me for the 'Jewbal' thing in the thread title. Its a cheeky name the goon financiers gave themselves because they're almost all Jewish.

Anyways, is anyone else a bit concerned about this? I'm sure many of us remember FW-gate, where every main in Goonwaffe was given 100bn from the proceeds (which was mostly later clawed back by CCP, but still). Who is to say the incestuous relationship between Goon and CCP won't develop even further?

Eisenhower warned the United States about the Military-Industrial Complex, I'm here to start a dialogue about the worrying path the politics in this game has taken. If you want a picture of the future, imagine a bee stinging a pubbie face... forever.


I am the head, he is my protege.

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Pewty McPew
EVE Corporation 2357451
#4 - 2013-01-07 23:54:05 UTC
Andski wrote:
CSM members can't use NDA privileged information to gain an advantage in-game, and if they did they'd almost certainly be caught. What's the problem?


T20
not a CSM but... never say never
Thomas Hurt
Future Ventures
#5 - 2013-01-07 23:54:13 UTC
Andski wrote:
CSM members can't use NDA privileged information to gain an advantage in-game, and if they did they'd almost certainly be caught. What's the problem?


Investment banks are supposed to have a "Chinese Firewall" in between their trading and banking divisions, and that hasn't worked too well in stopping insider trading. Imagine how well virtual punishments work in deterring this sort of thing.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#6 - 2013-01-07 23:54:42 UTC
I got 100 billon?
Hannah Flex
#7 - 2013-01-07 23:55:20 UTC
Thomas Hurt wrote:
Anyways, is anyone else a bit concerned about this?


No, no one is concerned about this. Anxiously awaiting your goonspiracy thread #112 tomorrow!
Dave Stark
#8 - 2013-01-07 23:56:47 UTC
not concerned in the slightest, odds are i'll be voting for him. i like him, he isn't an idiot.
Thomas Hurt
Future Ventures
#9 - 2013-01-07 23:57:33 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
I got 100 billon?


Nope, you're in a goon pet corporation. You may have gotten the ~1m in loot the Goonwaffe newbies ejected from their rifters when they realized they didn't need to sell it.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-01-08 00:02:18 UTC
Thomas Hurt wrote:
Investment banks are supposed to have a "Chinese Firewall" in between their trading and banking divisions, and that hasn't worked too well in stopping insider trading. Imagine how well virtual punishments work in deterring this sort of thing.


NDA breaches have real-world consequences. CSM members have to release their RL names, and the potential consequences of breaching an NDA are simply not worth making a quick buck in a bad space game.

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None ofthe Above
#11 - 2013-01-08 00:05:56 UTC
Now you've done it. You've named the cabal-that-must-not-be-named.

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Thomas Hurt
Future Ventures
#12 - 2013-01-08 00:06:09 UTC
Andski wrote:
Thomas Hurt wrote:
Investment banks are supposed to have a "Chinese Firewall" in between their trading and banking divisions, and that hasn't worked too well in stopping insider trading. Imagine how well virtual punishments work in deterring this sort of thing.


NDA breaches have real-world consequences. CSM members have to release their RL names, and the potential consequences of breaching an NDA are simply not worth making a quick buck in a bad space game.


I guess you just underestimate the lengths to which goons will go to succeed at this game. Normal players would be able to rationally weigh the consequences of breaking a real-life NDA with the rewards of virtual Space Money, but I don't trust goons to be able to do the same...
Mag's
Azn Empire
#13 - 2013-01-08 00:06:55 UTC
So glad I bought shares in :Tinfoil:

So far it's made me 100 Billion.

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#14 - 2013-01-08 00:07:31 UTC  |  Edited by: baltec1
Thomas Hurt wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
I got 100 billon?


Nope, you're in a goon pet corporation. You may have gotten the ~1m in loot the Goonwaffe newbies ejected from their rifters when they realized they didn't need to sell it.


This "pet corporation" is resposible for bringing high sec to its collective knees.

Does it make you angry knowing that goons have had members on the CSM for years now?
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#15 - 2013-01-08 00:10:45 UTC
Is this a Goonspiracy(tm) thread?

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2013-01-08 00:10:45 UTC
"Whether a cat is black or white makes no difference. As long as it catches mice, it is a good cat."
Rengerel en Distel
#17 - 2013-01-08 00:13:27 UTC
Yeah, not really sure it matters which goon is on the CSM does it? Rather have one that can address the economic impact of CCP decisions before they happen, than some of those with no clue the market even exists.

With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
Pewty McPew
EVE Corporation 2357451
#18 - 2013-01-08 00:13:56 UTC
Andski wrote:
NDA breaches have real-world consequences. CSM members have to release their RL names, and the potential consequences of breaching an NDA are simply not worth making a quick buck in a bad space game.


Icelandic Special Forces will be dispatched to do what exactly? Unless he's from that country there is little recourse. Oooo they will ban his ingame account. Not saying he is, could or would do it. But if he did, there is little that can be done about it.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#19 - 2013-01-08 00:15:26 UTC
Thomas Hurt wrote:
Imagine how well virtual punishments work in deterring this sort of thing.
Virtual punishments such as being thrown off the CSM, having your real name associated with an NDA breach (not a good career move, FYI), being permabanned, and having all the ISK destroyed, you mean?
Thomas Hurt
Future Ventures
#20 - 2013-01-08 00:17:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Thomas Hurt
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
Yeah, not really sure it matters which goon is on the CSM does it? Rather have one that can address the economic impact of CCP decisions before they happen, than some of those with no clue the market even exists.


The best option, in my view, would be *no* goon on the CSM; I don't treat their presence as an inevitability that has to be worked within. I certainly wouldn't want a member of the Jewbal there; your argument is akin to saying "lets make Madoff head of financial regulation in the U.S., he knows all the tricks and how to game the system".
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