EVE New Citizens Q&A

So before I left EvE last time, it appears I trained Industry up to 5. This is good, because I'd eventually like this character to be sitting in a Hulk for 8 hours a day. However, I'm still a while away from being able to pilot one efficiently.

Can anyone give me suggestions on what ship I should look at getting into while I'm training my way up to Hulk so that I'm bringing some ISK in? I created a profile that should show what skills he has. Nothing impressive, I realize that.

http://eveboard.com/pilot/Navarre_Blackmoor

What do you guys suggest?

Give the Market Discussions and the Science and Industry subforums a visit for more threads like this.

Basically for solo harvesting, aim for a Retriever first because of its superior ore hold. Skill up for Strip Miner 1 and Mining Laser Upgrages 1 as well and you're set.

Going upwards you'll want to train for T2 Mining Crystals with a T2 Modulated Strip Miner, The T1 crystal usually gives less yield than a Strip Miner 1 so just keep using Strip Miner 1, and jump immediately to T2 Strip Miner and T2 crystal. Maybe at this time as well you'd want to skill up for T2 Mining Laser Upgrades to further increase your yield to near Covetor yields.

Next up is training to a Mackinaw, again for its superior ore hold, and eventually saving for your Hulk. If ISK is already flowing in try to buy some +3% mining yield implants (Inherent Implants Highwall Mining MX-1003) at first.

I highly suggest you download the third party program isk per hour, which has a mining feature that does yield calculations and whatnot. It is available in the.. Science and Industry subforum i think.

Edit:
To give you an idea, I have the 3% implant, T2 crystal/strip miner/mining laser upgrade in a Mackinaw, and up to Exhumer lvl4.. I mine around ~8M a haul (haul = 30minutes from undock to station unload) or ~16M per hour. And you'll do it in 8 hours? That's like ~129M ISK worth of ores for me..

Strip miner I: Yield of 540m3 per cycle.
Modulated Strip Miner II, with no crystal: Yield of 360m3 per cycle.
Modulated Strip Miner II, with T1 crystal: Yield of 585m3 per cycle. (T1 Crystal is +62.5%)
Modulated Strip Miner II, with T2 crystal: Yield of 630m3 per cycle. (T1 Crystal is +75%)

Avoid Deep core strips unless you are going for mercoxite.

I suggest you learn a bit about the game before asking any more similar questions. You must believe I don't mean to belittle you, i just noticed a few questions that can't really be answered concisely by anyone but you.

A ships fit is largely based upon the fitting skills of the pilot, therefor the most reccomended gear is "the best named stuff you can fit as well as afford to lose".

You should use shield hardeners to combat the type of attack you expect to recieve. If you just want defence from rats then a 2 damage type tank will be sufficiant. If however you want to avoid ganks it's a little more complex. Most common gank destroyers are Thrashers and Catalysts which means you could recieve any or all of the 4 damage types depending on gank squad composition.

In the FITTINGS screen (ALT-F) look for the colored bars which indicate your shield resists. Remember that active (needs to be physically turned on in space) hardeners won't show their true effect unless you're in space and have them switched on. If for instance you have 1000HP of shields and all four bars say 50% or more (showing 50% of that damage type will be filtered by your shields) then you have an "Effective HP or EHP" of at least 2000HP.

With any mining fit there must be balance between the Job (mining yeild, thats why you're there) and your survival should things go pear shaped. Some miners prefer to fly full yeild fit almost tankless ships on the chance they will mine enough to pay it off and be in profit before someone decides to give them a hard time. Others will plan more for their ship to survive conflict at the cost of some yeild (DCU2 instead of MLU2 for instance).

On that note the above advice from others is very valid. The Procurer requires attention a little more regularly due to smaller hold, but you can shoot it with a gank dessy all day no problemo. Hulk on the other hand with it's massive yeild will fold if someone looks at it funny or yells anti mining insults in it's direction.

I'd choose based on how lucky you feel, like an old western movie :)

(Having never flown a mining ship i feel a bit fraudulent dispensing advice on them...)

The idea for the fit is "cheapest possible" to make ganking you pointless.

Fittings:

High Slot:
Strip Miner I

Med Slot:
EM Ward Field I
Thermic Dissipation Field I
Kinetic Dissipation Field I (or explosive)
Survey Scanner I - or higher meta 3, meta 4 ones are still cheap and have longer range

Low Slot:
Damage Control I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I

You can right-click on each of these modules and switch over to the Variations tab, and check market prices for the higher meta variations. Often you can find meta 2-4 versions that are better yet still cheap.

The ship is slow, so for mining in an exploration site where the asteroids are spread out and you have to fly through an accelleration gate, replace the EANM in the low slot with a Reactor Control Unit, or Micro Auxiliary Power Core (to give you more power grid) and replace the Kinetic hardener in the mid slot with a 10mn Afterburner I. Should allow you to move at about 200 m/s to get in range of the roids, while still being relatively well defended.

You can also put Mining Laser Upgrade I's in the low slots for an increased mining yield, but this reduces your defenses somewhat.

EDIT: No rigs. Rigs are expensive and they can increase the total cost of the ship past the point where ganking you becomes worth it again. Not because the rigs will drop, but because some people just like to cause you high losses.

With cheap fittings, the ship pays for itself in a couple hours of mining. Mining throughput should be about 85% of a decked out Retriever, for 25% of the cost.

The scout usually is that Venture mining innocently near you in the asteroid belt.

They use it because it can easily install a passive targetting system and a ship scanner, without diminishing its mining potential. So you won't even know that you've been targetted and scanned, and then the squad of destroyers jumps in and warps to 0 on the Venture, landing right on top of you for max damage.

WRONG.

T1 Strip miner >> T2 Strip miner WITHOUT crystal

T2 Strip miner with T1 crystal >> T1 Strip miner

T2 Stripminer with T2 crystal >> T2 Strip + T1 crystal.

Still doesn't change the fact that a T2 strip with T1 crystal IS better then a T1 strip miner, unlike the guy I quoted said (bolded part)

It is VERY relevant. Whether it's worth using T1 or T2 is its own discussion but the fact that using them is still better than a T1 strip or a T2 strip with no crystals is something that needs to be known.

Personally I stick with T1 crystals because they're cheaper and I can build them myself provided I live somewhere with pyro.

Edit: And btw you probably could break a T1 before training for T2, maybe only one set and only by mining most of the time but you probably could. That L4 skill might be longer than you think xD

Don't worry Dave dude, I admitted to my error at post 8. I get where you're coming from tho, cause I bought some 10 pieces of T1 crystals and a couple of hours later, I wished I hadn't. I have totally forgotten how much the increase was from T1 Strips to T2 + T1 crystal because of how short my use for T1 crystals were.

To JPoll, I am glad you still post like you do, thank you.