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WH Gallente Ship C3/C4, Any Suggestions

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iotari
Los Iotaris
#1 - 2013-01-02 09:59:11 UTC
Bit of an issue, I'm in a small WH corp that is based in a C5, but typically raids the lower classes for PVE. I am exclusively skilled in Gallente ships with 4.3m sp in hybrid turrets (no blaster spec), Cruiser5, BS 5, HAC 3, 3.7m sp in drones, and decent armor rep skills. I need a ship/fit that can work with my corp considering they are almost exclusively shield tankers. Any remote rep ships they bring would focus on shields to benefit the majority of people involved.
Maybe a railgun BS/BC with a buffer tank and maybe one rep, or a viable dual rep set up. I would like to avoid drone boats, Im so sick of watching my drones get popped and Id like to take advantage of my gunnery skills. It wouldnt be a big deal to have to warp off if I take large ammounts of aggro. It doesnt need to be an ultra win ship, just something I can contribute to the group effort with to bridge the gap between mining and PI runs.
Spheranzinne
Color of Violence
#2 - 2013-01-02 12:09:13 UTC
You can try a 250mm railgun brutix with a shield buffer tank and damage mods/tracking enhancers in the low if u want to take advantage of your friends shield remote repping capabilities. Armor tankin the brutix, might keep you on the field but u wont have any real damage. The buffer will allow you to warp out when in trouble.

If you could fly command ships astarte could be an option. It has great damage projection and the native rezists will help you to run a single rep armor thank. Use 250mm also and a large cap battery in the mids. But full aggro might get you in trouble. its really hard to fit a cap stable dual rep armot tanker, so i would say you go with the first/cheaper option.

Qumar Nuom
Clandestine Services
#3 - 2013-01-02 12:51:35 UTC
iotari wrote:

Maybe a railgun BS/BC with a buffer tank and maybe one rep...


Make that a RR and your good. Both Mega and Hyperion can be (ab)used in C4 shield plexing fleets (you should be able to fit a T2 tank though)

Local reps wont work or gimp you totally...
Walextheone
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-01-02 14:36:28 UTC
You could train HAC IV and use the Deimos with railguns. You will have good resists and pretty decent range. Put an AB + invul + extender in the mids
Gal'o Sengen
Doomheim
#5 - 2013-01-02 15:29:15 UTC
Gallente really doesn't have many options for lower Class in a shield tank, primarily because Medium Rails are just awful and the ships have no mids. Your best bet is a Deimos fit for shields, or maybe a Vigilant. Alternatively, if you have T2 Sentries an Ishtar might work.

Either way, Crosstrain sooner rather than later if your Corp intends to continue Shield tanking.
Backfyre
Hohmann Transfer
#6 - 2013-01-02 17:10:43 UTC
Gallente have so few options that I cross trained into a tengu for WH PvE. Self armor repping in C3's is painful and eats a lot of cap boosters.

Remote shield spider-tanking would be the way to go. Just make sure you have about a 25k EHP shield buffer and 70% resists. I take it, however, you do not have decent shield skills. A hyperion may be preferable over the mega as a shield tanker since it has 5 mid slots.
iotari
Los Iotaris
#7 - 2013-01-02 18:44:21 UTC
Thanks for the advice everyone. I might consider the railgun deimos or something along those lines. Its a shame how useless the entire race's method of fighting is in WH combat. Going to look into cross training soon, cause I severly doubt they would change over to armor tanking lol.
Borlag Crendraven
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-01-02 18:54:20 UTC
iotari wrote:
Thanks for the advice everyone. I might consider the railgun deimos or something along those lines. Its a shame how useless the entire race's method of fighting is in WH combat. Going to look into cross training soon, cause I severly doubt they would change over to armor tanking lol.


It is not, once you get past the restrictions provided to you by your own corporation. Gallente and shield tanking don't mix that well. Go up few notches and some of the best ships in the game are found in the gallente line up; the Moros combined with the Vigilant (technically gallente as well) and things go pop in no time.
chris elliot
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#9 - 2013-01-02 20:07:52 UTC
Borlag Crendraven wrote:
iotari wrote:
Thanks for the advice everyone. I might consider the railgun deimos or something along those lines. Its a shame how useless the entire race's method of fighting is in WH combat. Going to look into cross training soon, cause I severly doubt they would change over to armor tanking lol.


It is not, once you get past the restrictions provided to you by your own corporation. Gallente and shield tanking don't mix that well. Go up few notches and some of the best ships in the game are found in the gallente line up; the Moros combined with the Vigilant (technically gallente as well) and things go pop in no time.



Proteus dps, best dps.
Backfyre
Hohmann Transfer
#10 - 2013-01-02 20:13:03 UTC
iotari wrote:
Thanks for the advice everyone. I might consider the railgun deimos or something along those lines.

Forget the Deimos. Its defensive strength is a speed tank. It only has 3 mid slots and sleepers can web well beyond a 40k range, which will get your Deimos popped in short order in a C3. You need to be able to take a beating until the webbers are all disposed.
iotari
Los Iotaris
#11 - 2013-01-02 22:40:34 UTC  |  Edited by: iotari
Yeah, Shield skills are garbage ATM. EVEmon says im 25 days away from a newbish shield tanking setup
TomyLobo
U2EZ
#12 - 2013-01-03 00:32:49 UTC  |  Edited by: TomyLobo
If you have to go Gallente then you have options like the kronos & navy mega. If you have more than 4 tengus with shield RR then you don't have to worry about anything just fit for resist and buffer. The reps from the tengus should keep you alive (everyone should orbit you) . I did C5 sites this way until I upgraded to caps so you should probably be fine with about 3 tengus on field with shield RR for C4s and C3s.
Jacid
Corvix.
Greater Domain Cooperative
#13 - 2013-01-03 00:58:55 UTC
For C3s RR Domis and sentries work great of course you need an RR partner if somebody else has the RR you could consider going ishtar and sentries for c3-c4 and you can pull 700 dps without issue in an ishtar and it tanks pretty tough. Navy issue mega can buff shield tank very well.

My 2 cents
NG4ge
Space Dormouse
#14 - 2013-01-03 07:24:42 UTC
I used a self rep Proteus with Blasters and a deadspace MWD that stopped the sig radius penalty for using MWD...never died in any of the C3 sites but only had one Mag Stab...full tank mode. RR Tengu is a lot easier!

I also have used a shield tanked dominix with carrier support in a C4 site...that was a lot of fun :)
Svodola Darkfury
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2013-01-04 07:42:08 UTC
Jacid wrote:
For C3s RR Domis and sentries work great of course you need an RR partner if somebody else has the RR you could consider going ishtar and sentries for c3-c4 and you can pull 700 dps without issue in an ishtar and it tanks pretty tough. Navy issue mega can buff shield tank very well.

My 2 cents



Run the Dominix with a partner or two if you can. It's an excellent ship, easily rivaling the Tengu based on its reduced cost and higher damage output with a remote rep setup. Ishtar, as said above, tanks great, but can run into some issues with the neuting.

I currently use a shield fit Dominix in our C4 fleets that puts out about 1100 DPS out to 50 km and 900ish out to 97km. We use a Basilisk energy paired with a Raven or other 2 high-slot spare battleship (tempest, typhoon are examples) for our reps. For C4s you only need to tank up to 1500 EHP rated DPS with whatever reps you're getting from your logistics. You can go with less but you better bring the heat for triple or quadruple battleship waves in Frontier Barracks and Sleeper Information Sanctum.

Svo.

Director of Frozen Corpse Industries.

AP John
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2013-01-04 08:59:28 UTC
Hi, I'm also a Galente only pilot (on the passing years I have trained other races, but I don't use them much) in wormhole space, I use a Blaster Proteus for raiding C5's and pretty much everything sleeper related.

IMO going on the shield tank is a waste of your galente perks, just find another WH corp that runs armor tank, there are plenty out there and rather good and active.
Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#17 - 2013-01-04 10:11:41 UTC
Shield Sentry Ishtar would be a viable choice.
The Myrm Shield tanks well, as does the Dominix.

Another option add Caldari Cruiser to your skill lineup, the Gila can deal some serious facemelting dps (for a cruiser) whilst having a very solid tank, using the launcher slots is optional as they are unbonused.
Tarunik Raqalth'Qui
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2013-01-05 00:30:48 UTC
Sentry Shishtar does seem like your best option. With 3.7mil in drones, I doubt you are far away from Tech Two sentries, anyway.
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#19 - 2013-01-06 14:40:36 UTC
iotari wrote:
Thanks for the advice everyone. I might consider the railgun deimos or something along those lines. Its a shame how useless the entire race's method of fighting is in WH combat. Going to look into cross training soon, cause I severly doubt they would change over to armor tanking lol.


Useless in WH combat? Best damn race for wormhole combat, and the others aren't even exactly close behind with a few exceptions.

As what comes to C3 PVE, shield tankers have to go all the way up to T3 before they can match a low-SP T1 Gallente setup, and missiles are still worse than sentries+lights. Dominix, King of the Skies.

If you want to run armor Gallente in C3s, join us!

.

Cyniac
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2013-01-07 16:47:58 UTC
Navy Domi - your best friend (the extra mid really is great for the shield tank) - it can fit the RR, a very decent shield tank and still spew out good damage.