Warfare & Tactics

it is quite an art to comment without pointing to any real point ... and make spelling mistake in words (in the time of spellcheck).

let the flame burn .... .

Stop posting please, CCP is much better off listening to people that actually play the game. The amount of forum warriors that don't even play but seem to be so very opinionated is quite pathetic.

I don't want sov war in lowsec. I want people without a clue to shut their holes. Especially ones that were never relevant to begin with.

Oh you always were the bitter type.. please sit down in the couch over there and tell us where the bad guy in the space ship touched you.

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Incredibly fun engagement. You guys brought the pain and kept on bringing it until you very deservedly held the field. Feel free to swing by Bleak Lands sometime!

I guess that's why I see that Caldari has taken another system at the end of the map and that there are 16+/- systems currently in hands of Galentte that are over 50% contested with the bulk of those being over 60%. I also notice that Ikoskio that was flipped by Cladari what a week or so ago has already been flipped back.

You guys are doing nothing more than what was done before, under the last version of FW Farm War 2.0 , with the allowing systems to be taken, so they can be farmed back.

The whole thing is a joke and you know just as well as I do that if LP's were removed and it was just fight for war zone control & docking rights no one would even travel to any of the systems out side of the handful of PVP arena systems, because the only ones going to those systems now are the farmers.

This is wrong. Gallente are actively trying to deplex systems. You are doing a disservice to the Caldari that are out there fighting their hearts out.

If LP and docking were removed, you are right that we wouldn't be trying to defend systems. Since system capture actually means something, not only to the very few RPers care but the vast majority of the PVPers care too. As a result, we are trying to defend systems which is creating fights. You can choose to ignore it, but this new FW system is creating content and fights.

IMHO, the Caldari seem to be doing the smart thing and just slowly contesting as many systems as possible. Caldari are still getting more VP/day than Gallente. Right now, we are playing whack-a-mole by defending where we see the Caldari attacking (ie Hasama). However, sooner or later the systems will be too contested and the Caldari will be able to flip them before we can realize there is a coordinated push to take a certain system.

This is the most fun I've had in FW since probably around 2008. And no, its not just because we're winning. If all the Caldari fought like Happy Endings did, things would be different. Happy Endings actually inflicted significantly more damage to the Gallente in the Rakapas battle. They only lost because they stood alone with only Templis helping.

Yes, but it still revolves around farming for Sov. You guys simply just choose which ones aren't as important to defend and of course they are always station-less systems.

While I agree they needed to fix the DT plexing issue that we had in the old system, in doing so they have created a system where there is zero reason to plex any system out side of the target system when attacking, because you can just let the LP farmers do that for you.

Under the old system, a plex could spawn any where with-in that region. That meant to actively take a system you had to spread out and have guys all over that region looking for plex spawns in order to shuffle them back into the target system. Even with LP farmers this was the better system, because they also could be run off and couldn't just wait you out or simply go to another system & get X amount of plexes per hour. If you took their plex it wasn't certain they would find a replacement.

The old system meant that a small and determined force, could slow down a larger blob by fighting a guerrilla war. It caused much more small gang fights and not the current system of "hey guys we need our 50 best BFF's to lock up this system because we have 12 Caldari here".. OMG 12 of them we need MOAR people we only have 30!!!

Right now all you have to do is get a big enough blob and the system will eventually fall because you know there will be a new plex spawn every X amount of time. This is Null sec Sov war in FW using plexes instead of timers. It's not really so much about fighting it's about who has the bigger blob. You might get fights out of it, but it's not a real fight for the system because the only real fight is making sure you can lock down the system with numbers advantage.

Under the old system you had to spread out the blob in order to hunt for plexs with-in that region, which meant the smaller force still had the ability to fight back. It wasn't simply bring bigger blob = game over. Under the old system you had to fight for the entire region, not just the current version of arena FW where it's just out blob a system one by one and let the farmers do all the grunt work.

Was such a fun fight. I was not 100% sure I wanted the fight when I saw ten Augs land on the gate but we went all the way up there for a fight. I think at one point we counted 15 logi on the field in addition to what we killed. Maybe we will come visit OMS again soon.